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When I was in 10th grade I had to read "Brave New World", and then "1984". When I read the first, I was revulsed...It seemed like a nightmare. Then I read the second, and the first just didn't seem so bad anymore...


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I liked it. Though I liked 1984 more. I think the distopic genre tends to suffer from too much future-technology. Makes it less real, dulls the intended message.


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I much prefer 1984. Brave New World, like Kit said, has no characters you care about, and it has aged - badly. Despite there being only about 15 years between BNW and 1984, the former feels like it was written fifty years earlier.
1984 in contrast seems much more believable, and is much more relevant to today's situation (the only thing Orwell got wrong was the date)...

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I recently read Brave New World right after finishing 1984 so I kept bracing myself for a darkness that did not come. However it is creepier in a way.

When I read 1984 I just didn't buy it. Not the totalitarian nature of the world but the scope of it seemed unrealistic. It was just too *perfect.* I didn't buy the continued balance of the world between Oceania, Eurasia and Estasia. It seems unrealistic to me in a military sense. One side would get complacent, or would develop a new technology, or there would be a breakthrough in intelligence gathering until one of the countries would gain a foothold.

I also didn't buy the idea that Party members could be so miserable and still be loyal to big brother. It's like the way a 1950's sitcom is all superficial and plastic, only dystopian instead of utopian, a plastic world of fake misery instead of fake happiness.

On the other hand you have Brave New World which solves that problem a bit more realisticly. The people aren't miserable, they are kept artifically happy with promiscuity and Soma holidays. All seems perfect until you see what happens when someone falls through the cracks. Much more believable in my opinion.


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personnaly I think that A Brave New World is scarrier as we are constantly getting closer to having that sort of technology. 1984 isn't as scary, but it makes you wonder. And if you really want a book that makes you think twice about human nature read Animal Farm by George Orwell.


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The internet, especially e-mail, is what keeps a Nineteen Eighty-Four situation at bay because it allows the individual to bypass all the media's self-censorship and propaganda, government propaganda and attempts at censorship.

Through the net, individuals can directly contact each other, making it impossible for a country, even a physically isolated one like the UK, to control 100% of the information people have access to.

The impression I got from Nineteen Eighty-Four was that none of the events outside of England/UK were actually happening. No floating fortresses, no massive battles, nada. England had gone totally INGSOC and decided to ignore the rest of the world. Apparently no other country was bothering itself to liberate the people of England, but that would've ruined the plot. ;)

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