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 Post subject: Most Annoying Books
PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:28 pm 
Not books where you said "This author is an idiot!", but books where you said "WHAT THE HELL? That shouldn't happen to that character!" Books where you felt angry on a character's behalf.

For me, it's one of Katherine Kurtz' Deryni books... the third one, I think. The great mage has saved a king, restored order, all is well - then at the coronation ceremony, he trips, falls, and cracks his head. Dies. What a STUPID way to die! Argh! After all the battles and stuff...


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 17, 2004 10:49 pm 
<i>The Great Gatsby</i> by F. Scott Fitzgerald.

I've never wanted to yell advice to a character as much as I did in that book.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:06 am 
I haven't read All Quiet on the Western Front, but I saw the movie, and the ending was very annoying. The guy gets so wound up writing a freaking letter that he stands up at the wrong time and gets shot.

But what really gets me is when people are intolerant or don't pay attention to someone else's point of view, and keep on going in their own way, purposely oblivious to any possible alternatives. I can think of several minor incidences in literature right off.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:48 am 
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Gerald wrote:
<i>The Great Gatsby</i> by F. Scott Fitzgerald.

I've never wanted to yell advice to a character as much as I did in that book.


I never managed to work up enough empathy with the characters to *want* to yell at them.

In fact, to this day, I don't even remember what the hell the book was about.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:08 am 
Ogredude wrote:
I never managed to work up enough empathy with the characters to *want* to yell at them.

In fact, to this day, I don't even remember what the hell the book was about.


Being in love with an ideal I think is the best way to say it.

That and some commentary on the 20's.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 2:43 am 
A Cavern of Black Ice... so many times.

But then that's what made that book so great. :)


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:00 am 
Well, there was Timothy Zahn's "Str Wars" trilogy...I mean, I loved it. But they way the villain lost in the end didn't make much sense (frankly, I was sad to see him lose. He's my avatar, incidentally).


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 3:57 am 
Poor Thrawn. *sniffle*

I liked Daala better, though. Tough old bat, that one.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 9:25 am 
I don't know. The way he died did suck, but there was a little irony in it. And you have to feel good for the Nogri (sp?).


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:09 pm 
It did make sense for him to die like that.

GRR Martin's song of Ice and Fire. Just don't get attached to any of the characters. I have the feeling they're all going to die horribly at one point or another. (Several do it every book)


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 1:01 pm 
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Poor Thrawn. *sniffle*

I liked Daala better, though. Tough old bat, that one.

Daala? Heard the name somewhere...What book was she in?

Also, another entry: "Bel-Ami" (not sure how it's called in English) by Maupassant. The main character is such a jerk, you really get disgusted with him before the book is over...


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 6:56 pm 
sun tzu wrote:
Daala? Heard the name somewhere...What book was she in?

She was the one running around with a super star destroyer, red hair as I recall. It was in one of Zahn's books. They somehow got her destroyer hooked on the gravity of that gas giant near the jedi planet.

They seem to have disposed of a lot of things that way... it's also how they got rid of dash rendar's little invincible ship. :)


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 5:59 pm 
Raif wrote:
sun tzu wrote:
Daala? Heard the name somewhere...What book was she in?

She was the one running around with a super star destroyer, red hair as I recall. It was in one of Zahn's books. They somehow got her destroyer hooked on the gravity of that gas giant near the jedi planet.

They seem to have disposed of a lot of things that way... it's also how they got rid of dash rendar's little invincible ship. :)

Or the Sun Crusher in I, Jedi/Jedi Academy series (I think that's the one you mean. Dash Rendar was the guy in Shadows of the Empire, and his ship got shot down)

Is the SSD you're talking about the Lusankya (or however you spell it), the big prison ship?


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 6:19 pm 
No, he's talking about the Knight Hammer.

Lusankya was used to ram a worldship in NJO.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 20, 2004 8:11 pm 
The most annoying? The ending to the 6-book hard-to-then-find Hamilton "Night's Dawn" series.

Pure deus ex machina.

Throws away 2/3rds or more of the rest of the books.

*grrrrrrrrrrrrr* StILL gets me a wee bit steamed...


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 1:41 am 
Maveric wrote:
Or the Sun Crusher in I, Jedi/Jedi Academy series (I think that's the one you mean. Dash Rendar was the guy in Shadows of the Empire, and his ship got shot down)

Ah. Yeah, it sounds familiar.

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Is the SSD you're talking about the Lusankya (or however you spell it), the big prison ship?

Naw, I suspect Anh was right on this one. It's been so many years I don't really remember the details anymore.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 3:49 pm 
All but one gothic romance novel. I've even tried to read a few from centuries past but that all seem to have the stupidest, flightyest victims in the making style of heroines I have ever come across, not to mention way to obvious villians and heros. It's impossible for me too actually read the entire story before I'm sick of the outragous senarios the authors try to make you belive are really happening.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 21, 2004 11:49 pm 
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The General wrote:
I haven't read All Quiet on the Western Front, but I saw the movie, and the ending was very annoying. The guy gets so wound up writing a freaking letter that he stands up at the wrong time and gets shot.


I'd recommend reading the book. It ends somewhat differently - and much more poignantly.

Personally, I was quite irritated by (blasphemy!) Larry Niven's Ringworld. The central concept is quite interesting, but I never really connected with the characters. So much of what they did seemed so random that I never really understood their motivations.

I have similar feelings for Asimov's Foundation's Edge and Foundation and Earth. Good stories both, but the main characters' constant one-note bickering about Earth's existance got tiresome rather quickly.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 2:46 am 
Simon Jester wrote:
I have similar feelings for Asimov's Foundation's Edge and Foundation and Earth. Good stories both, but the main characters' constant one-note bickering about Earth's existance got tiresome rather quickly.


I totally agree with you there, SJ. I loved the original Foundation trilogy, but Edge and Earth were both pretty awful. Earth at least had the return of an old old old character that ties it in with Asimov's other big series. But still, lame city. Prelude was decent though. Never read Forward the Foundation, but it's only half-Asimov anyway.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:28 am 
Anh Minh wrote:
It did make sense for him to die like that.

G R R Martin's song of Ice and Fire. Just don't get attached to any of the characters. I have the feeling they're all going to die horribly at one point or another. (Several do it every book)


You bet. In fact it makes it worse that everything seems fine until the end of the first book, when [SPOILER DELEATED]. Still, that is part of the reason I love the books besides the fact that Martin is excellent at pulling the reader in.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:54 pm 
DarthBaboon wrote:
Anh Minh wrote:
It did make sense for him to die like that.

G R R Martin's song of Ice and Fire. Just don't get attached to any of the characters. I have the feeling they're all going to die horribly at one point or another. (Several do it every book)


You bet. In fact it makes it worse that everything seems fine until the end of the first book, when [SPOILER DELEATED]. Still, that is part of the reason I love the books besides the fact that Martin is excellent at pulling the reader in.

I know, I especially felt angry at the end of the last one. Cause I thought everything was going to go well for Rob.

The Starks need to keep their wolves with them at all times. When they don't bad things happen.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 14, 2004 8:31 pm 
Anything Piers Anthony has wrote in the past 10 years. He's made his point, all the jokes have already been made. Why can't he just stop friggin' writing?


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Anything Piers Anthony has wrote in the past 10 years. He's made his point, all the jokes have already been made. Why can't he just stop friggin' writing?


Meanwhile, Pratchett's just getting better and better. Score one for intelligent humor. :)

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 2:51 am 
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Anything Piers Anthony has wrote in the past 10 years. He's made his point, all the jokes have already been made. Why can't he just stop friggin' writing?


Actually, it's mainly because his publishers won't let him write anything but the crap he keeps churning out. He's expressed a desire to write what he wants to write for years, but if it ain't Xanth, the publishers won't buy it.

He's got some really good stories in him, if he was allowed to drop the Xanth series. The Mode series was quite good.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 16, 2004 3:23 pm 
Ogredude wrote:
MaskedHuzzah wrote:
Anything Piers Anthony has wrote in the past 10 years. He's made his point, all the jokes have already been made. Why can't he just stop friggin' writing?


Actually, it's mainly because his publishers won't let him write anything but the crap he keeps churning out. He's expressed a desire to write what he wants to write for years, but if it ain't Xanth, the publishers won't buy it.

He's got some really good stories in him, if he was allowed to drop the Xanth series. The Mode series was quite good.

Or, if you can find it, his 'Steppe' is a wonderful intro to the historic Mongol period... Highly, reccommended.

-John


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 19, 2004 4:42 pm 
Fahrenheit 451. It had some points to make, but it made them in a way that prevented me from maintaining my suspension of disbelief.


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:11 am 
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Discarnate wrote:
Ogredude wrote:
MaskedHuzzah wrote:
Anything Piers Anthony has wrote in the past 10 years. He's made his point, all the jokes have already been made. Why can't he just stop friggin' writing?


Actually, it's mainly because his publishers won't let him write anything but the crap he keeps churning out. He's expressed a desire to write what he wants to write for years, but if it ain't Xanth, the publishers won't buy it.

He's got some really good stories in him, if he was allowed to drop the Xanth series. The Mode series was quite good.

Or, if you can find it, his 'Steppe' is a wonderful intro to the historic Mongol period... Highly, reccommended.

-John


Yeah, that was pretty good.

His old series "Bio of a Space Tyrant" was really good once you get past all the ecchy stuff at the beginning. Rape, murder, rape, pillaging... (You said rape twice! I like rape.)


Anyways, except for the last 4 or 5 Xanth books and an actual paper copy of "Pornocoupia", I have everything Anthony's ever written (and had published).

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:12 am 
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Locus Cosecant wrote:
Fahrenheit 451. It had some points to make, but it made them in a way that prevented me from maintaining my suspension of disbelief.


Perhaps that's why I don't remember a bit of it, except for the fact that there were dudes burning books. And I've read it 3 or 4 times.

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2004 9:05 pm 
The Belgariad and the Mallorean, by David Eddings. The thing I hate is not the characters (Well, no, not even Ce'Nedra) but the damned situation. The characters, for the most part, I'd enjoy their company, but once they restore the Purpose and get everything back to normal again, they get their rewards... Ugh.... I still feel sorry for Silk.

But maybe that's just me.

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2004 1:24 am 
I thought "The Awakening" was extremely annoying. The whole novel this lady's whining about life, and then she kills herself at the end. Yeah... we didn't see that one coming. :roll: Oh well, I'll still appreciate its literary qualities... But I sure as heck ain't reading it again.


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