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PostPosted: Mon Apr 29, 2019 11:51 pm 
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So, the Milky way is like a volcano?
There's a recurring natural danger in staying there besides the threat of annihilation from the DaMEs?

Perhaps if you go where space is flat enough, you don't need a core generator and can safely make your own tiny, custom big bangs. Blackjack optional.

Or is it just that things are cooler in deep space?
Perhaps the great attractor is just that attractive and the civilizations eventually notice the advertisements and head out to see it?


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"if you live forever long enough then eventually someone's going to be born who doesn't want you to live forever and also try to kill you, and they tend to be able to find you faster if you're living in a galaxy" is a perfectly good reason for leaving a galaxy.


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Well... ok.
Actually, I was just wondering if these departing worldships would have been at the minimum safe distance when the core generator blew up in their last/alternate universe.


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PostPosted: Fri May 03, 2019 8:36 am 
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Even if it is more peaceful out in the boonies, there doesn't seem to be much to do yet, and that commute is brutal.


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The ultimate conflict between lifeforms comes down to Energy, in one form or another. Whether it's food or fuel, solar rays or galactic spin, everyone needs energy and there's only so much of it to go around.

There is no significant energy in intergalactic space. Running away from all sources of energy needed to sustain and expand life does not seem like a smart long-term solution. Sooner or later whatever reserves you brought with you are going to be depleted. Sure the same could be said for the whole universe, but that will always be many orders of magnitude further away.


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Refueling from a distance isn't useful if it costs ludicrously more than you get out of it.

Petey is using the core generator to send a probe that distance. Gassing up a worldship from that distance would probably require burning all the mass in the galaxy for one tankfull.

Although...
Perhaps dragging a wormgate along, connected back to a resource-star back home would work. Assuming that you're willing to leave such a connection to the galaxy without worrying about the proverbial magma spilling through.


And, on that note...
Which way was the Andromedan wormgate carried?


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The All Star has been successfully hiding from galactic civilization for a number of cycles. They don't seem too concerned about the natural disasters since they exist within the galaxy.

The Oafans were successfully hiding as well, but I dont understand why they were forcibly digitized. Unless it was out of fear that a few meatform Oafans might go rogue and try to contact someone?

If they were digitized because that somehow provides protection against gamma bursts the problem with that is that you can just resurrect everyone after the gamma burst.


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So apparently there's a bomb. Or a capacitor for a giant tearaport, who knows?

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Ah, so it is more about avoiding the young drunk civilizations tooling around with shotguns and causing disasters.
I guess I can see the point; it is far too much hassle to be sociable all the time and keep up to date with the neighbours. At least Petey has that covered these days.

The capacitor is presumably so that Petey doesn't do to the galactic core what Schlock did to the Andromedan wormgate.


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Gassing up a worldship isn't all that hard...or necessary, when you get down to it.

Assuming it's like the All-Star, they have a small, cold-burning sun that can last for potentially trillions of years without refuelling, and they're coasting along on inertia, meaning the only power they neeed is for life support - however they're remaining alive - and any course correction or sudden engineering projects or weapons requirements, and those are likely to be short term usage, suitable for slow-charge capacitors utilizing whatever excess energy their captured star provides.

Also, while intergalactic space is (likely) sparse, that doesn't mean it's *empty*. There's going to be particulate matter and possibly even whole planets that have been thrown from the galactic plane. Intersecting with one of those would be rare, but, as stated, relatively unnecessary to do.

And then, travel far enough in a straight line, and they're all but certain to intersect with another galaxy at some point, where they may be able to top up the tank, or possibly even swap out their star, assuming they don't decide that they've been on a long enough road trip and decide to just Be As Unto Gods for a few million years.

Long story short, anybody who can fling a worldship out of the galaxy is probably set for a considerable portion of the expected lifespan of the universe. Or they wouldn't have flung themselves out of the Galaxy in the first place.

Unless they're idiots, like those AIs who crashed a planet into another planet and thought organic were an infestation.


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Gassing up with other galaxies?
Sure, as long as the other galaxies won't move around!

It's improbable, but as time goes up, so do the number of improbable things occurring!


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Well, until the universe has expanded so much that anything intersecting with your straight line is too far away to ever reach. Like, in only 100 billion years, even *light* won't ever reach outside our local group. So if you're planning on swapping stars in a trillion years when your current one runs out of fuel, you'll need to have been careful not to get stuck in ever-expanding intergalactic space.


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