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Did anyone catch that episode of Stargate Atlantis where an enemy attack drone was carrying a stargate?

The gate was linked to a corresponding gate on an enemy world where a huge energy weapon was fired into it so that this little drone had the punch of a city-sized gun with unlimited power reserves as long as the gate could be maintained.

If a tiny breacher torpedo were equipped with a little terraport cage or wormgate inside it, the same trick could be done in the Schlockverse.

If a single one made it through you could gut an enemy ship instantly.


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I wonder what'd happen if you fed one stargate through another stargate? Set the coordinates properly on them both and have the universe pull itself into its own hole? ;)

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Hmm, you would basically be telling subspace to go f*** itself. :twisted:


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Huh, I must have missed that episode.


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Actually what I'd wonder about terraporting anti-matter is if there isn't some way to intentionally break the decode phase on the other side to reconstruct the energy as anti-hydrogen instead of whatever object you sent through.


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The thing stargate does well is its either "magic" or something genuinely plausible, and best of all if they did something last week to blow up 400 baddies, its the first thing they try this week when the same situation presents itself ;->.
They never mention how the gate itself actually opens the wormhole or how it does so without spagettifcation and massive gravity waves eating everything nearby.
but they do say wormhole and the stuff they say about that aspect is somewhat close to how its sposed to work.

To me the stargate seems more like a super long range star trek type transporter with a funky "beam out" rather than walking through a wormhole.

If it was a real wormhole type effect you would expect to see the other side when the gate opened rather than the cool water effect, and have bi directional travel rather than the single direction that appears to exist.

But who cares really, Its good enough to pass my BS detector and tells a good story. Star Trek could do the same, but they seem to have a cumpulsive need to come up with random crap technobabble solutions, when using some slightly different words they could have a plausible and most importantly consistent technical solution to their plot (holes ;->)


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[EDIT]: I didn't read earlier posts properly before posting - this comment was irrelevant


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Annie-plants only produce a gravitational field while active. Apparently a powered-down plant stores it's fuel as something other than matter.


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Neutronium, in sufficient quantity, will 'make gravity' all by itself. Powered-down annie plants do not.


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Explaining this would require explaining how artificial gravity works in the Schlockiverser.

However, it does imply something: annie plants must have some kind of failsafe, maybe inherent in their construction, that lets them generate enough gravity internally to maintain neutronium containment. (Annie plants are not nearly as massive as a small neutron star, which is how massive they'd need to be to keep neutronium compressed without some kind of artificial containment.)

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When an annie-plant is fully fuelled up and active, what percentage of it's internal volume is neutronium?


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I believe nothing is known about annie plants except for their output/size ratio(even that is relative and approximate) they are a black box.


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I once asked Howard how Annie Plants work. He said he didn't know. I have a theory, based on the assumption that Proton Decay is permissable. Theoretically, a Proton can decay into three Photons and a Positron. Similarly, a Neutron can decay into nothing but energy. While this has yet to be observed, it's not forbidden by anything except the Law of Conservation of Boson Number, which is believed to just be an outgrowth of Quark Conservation. There is a way, conserving Quarks, to convert a Proton to energy, if a powerful enough Boson interacts with the Proton or Neutron as a catalyst. I have whimsically called this the Gav Boson. Real physicists have postulated other theoretical Bosons. Howard has stated that the process only works with Neutronium.

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