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PostPosted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 10:36 pm 
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I think we need some hard data on how much the beam "firehoses" over a certain distance.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 9:39 pm 
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Variable, i think, depending on the setting, though it depends on how the settings work.


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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2012 9:06 am 
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ackehece wrote:
so

1) if the enemy is prepared with goggles to see stuff like that (prepared is the definition of a sniper)
2) they aren't blind (so see the muzzle flash)

they

3) know where you are anyway?


Suppose the tracer bullets were shaped like civil war mini balls with concave or even hollow backs. Only someone with the goggles viewing the tracers from behind would be able to see them. Presumably, your enemy is mostly forward of your position so even with uv goggles they wouldn't see the tracers. Actually, with this arrangement, you wouldn't even need uv, regular phosphor dots would work just as well and not require any special equipment. Plus, with phosphor in the tracers, they become weapons themselves.

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:37 pm 
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Moosedr00l wrote:
ackehece wrote:
so

1) if the enemy is prepared with goggles to see stuff like that (prepared is the definition of a sniper)
2) they aren't blind (so see the muzzle flash)

they

3) know where you are anyway?


Suppose the tracer bullets were shaped like civil war mini balls with concave or even hollow backs. Only someone with the goggles viewing the tracers from behind would be able to see them. Presumably, your enemy is mostly forward of your position so even with uv goggles they wouldn't see the tracers. Actually, with this arrangement, you wouldn't even need uv, regular phosphor dots would work just as well and not require any special equipment. Plus, with phosphor in the tracers, they become weapons themselves.


Hey Hey Hey no sneaking in the back, this is a mildly organised operation we got going on here. You just stay right there and Zinho will get round to issuing you your forum weapon. That will be the entirety of your orientation. Welcome to the forums!

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PostPosted: Fri May 18, 2012 7:38 am 
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If I wanted to see bullets I'd use a high-speed camera and just plot anything moving too fast....


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:12 pm 
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mesmorino wrote:
Moosedr00l wrote:
Suppose the tracer bullets were shaped like civil war mini balls with concave or even hollow backs. Only someone with the goggles viewing the tracers from behind would be able to see them. Presumably, your enemy is mostly forward of your position so even with uv goggles they wouldn't see the tracers. Actually, with this arrangement, you wouldn't even need uv, regular phosphor dots would work just as well and not require any special equipment. Plus, with phosphor in the tracers, they become weapons themselves.
Hey Hey Hey no sneaking in the back, this is a mildly organised operation we got going on here. You just stay right there and Zinho will get round to issuing you your forum weapon. That will be the entirety of your orientation. Welcome to the forums!

@mesmorino: What, I stumble into the Armory and suddenly I'm the only one on duty? I'm pretty sure I'm not even on the roster for this post!

@Moosedr00l: Welcome to the forums! I have the honor of giving you your site orientation, I think by virtue of being the closest one to the entrance who didn't call "not it!" Let's get you a weapon issued. You're in luck, the bin for gnarled staves of topical necromancy is empty; that's the traditional weapon issued to first-time posters replying to a 4-year-old thread. I think I've got just the thing for you, though. The Fondant Fountain of Cervidae Saliva: this more closely resembles a grecian urn than a gun, but don't let looks fool you. Upon activation it superheats the contents of its fluid reservoir (preferred ammo: saliva from the Cervidae family of mammals, preferably Alces Alces if available), then projects it onto your target, instantly melting whatever it hits on contact. Unfortunately, the process of superheating the reservoir to temperatures that will melt anything also, by necessity, melts the reservoir. The Fountain's body also ablates as part of the shaping action for the shot. Protective attire is recommended.


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PostPosted: Mon May 21, 2012 1:20 am 
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Zinho wrote:
mesmorino wrote:
Moosedr00l wrote:
Suppose the tracer bullets were shaped like civil war mini balls with concave or even hollow backs. Only someone with the goggles viewing the tracers from behind would be able to see them. Presumably, your enemy is mostly forward of your position so even with uv goggles they wouldn't see the tracers. Actually, with this arrangement, you wouldn't even need uv, regular phosphor dots would work just as well and not require any special equipment. Plus, with phosphor in the tracers, they become weapons themselves.
Hey Hey Hey no sneaking in the back, this is a mildly organised operation we got going on here. You just stay right there and Zinho will get round to issuing you your forum weapon. That will be the entirety of your orientation. Welcome to the forums!

@mesmorino: What, I stumble into the Armory and suddenly I'm the only one on duty? I'm pretty sure I'm not even on the roster for this post!

@Moosedr00l: Welcome to the forums! I have the honor of giving you your site orientation, I think by virtue of being the closest one to the entrance who didn't call "not it!" Let's get you a weapon issued. You're in luck, the bin for gnarled staves of topical necromancy is empty; that's the traditional weapon issued to first-time posters replying to a 4-year-old thread. I think I've got just the thing for you, though. The Fondant Fountain of Cervidae Saliva: this more closely resembles a grecian urn than a gun, but don't let looks fool you. Upon activation it superheats the contents of its fluid reservoir (preferred ammo: saliva from the Cervidae family of mammals, preferably Alces Alces if available), then projects it onto your target, instantly melting whatever it hits on contact. Unfortunately, the process of superheating the reservoir to temperatures that will melt anything also, by necessity, melts the reservoir. The Fountain's body also ablates as part of the shaping action for the shot. Protective attire is recommended.


Pfft, you wandered too close to the entrance and got sucked in (Naked Singularities, remember?); you've been volunteered now. You want out, talk to Whitehawke, torrenal or Johno. Or appeal to the Malevolent god of the Schlockiverse, but be aware that he's called malevolent for a reason. You just might find yourself in charge of -gasp- personnel

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 1:23 am 
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Howard Tayler wrote:
ackehece wrote:
otoh that could imply more expensive tracer ammo doesn't in the future?


That's EXACTLY what that implies. Good tracer ammo (and they've already got prototypes, if not production stuff) doesn't leave a flaming trail. The back end of the bullet is an intense UV emitter. You have to wear goggles to see the trace. No goggles? No dotted line giving away the shooter's position.

(You have to spot the shooter based on the MASSIVE MUZZLE FLASH FROM HIS GINORMOUS WEAPON)


Hence the preference for magnetic launchers. Magnetic pulses are much harder to see, and, in a universe where superconductors can be packed into a handgun, that can be damped down to almost nothing.

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PostPosted: Tue May 22, 2012 2:02 pm 
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shoot fast enough and the bullet will be it's own tracer, witness the naval railgun tests where the projectile has quite a bow wake of plasma.


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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2012 1:36 am 
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Sockmonkey wrote:
I think we need some hard data on how much the beam "firehoses" over a certain distance.


A plasma stream will spread rapidly in an atmosphere due to turbulence and cavitation, unless the muzzle has a magnetic containment field. Given the fact that plasma is a superconductor, it would be possible to embed a current flow in the plasma stream to make it coherent longer. In any event, the BH series of plasguns aren't long-range high-precision weapons.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:19 pm 
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No, they are massive destruction with the Ominous Hummm of impending doom so the target knows (s)he is about to be toast.

I most certainly want at least one. It will round out the arsenal here nicely. :twisted:

I am still looking for a decent Trebuchet just for the archaic group. :mrgreen:


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