I don't think that's the way Howard wants this to go. And he's COMPLETELY WRONG about it. He WANTS to force a complete break between ressurective iterations, but that doesn't work unless the PERSONALITY changes, too. It doesn't work unless it's a DIFFERENT PERSON that comes out.
This Kaff Tagon is NO different from the one that died, except he can't remember what happened for forty minutes. That's a head injury and a four month coma.
That is not a WHOLE NEW PERSON, and trying to treat them such is stupid and incredibly short sighted and COMPLETELY misunderstands psychology and the continuity problem.
Uh, no. I'm afraid that you're the one misunderstanding the continuity problem. It's got absolutely nothing to do with personality and everything to do with an interruption of consciousness. That's why the word 'continuity' is in there. Now, I'm of the opinion that comas and maybe even sleep DO interrupt the stream of consciousness. But Howard isn't misunderstanding anything here - Tagon's stream of consciousness was undeniably interrupted. Now, he's still Tagon, descended from the same stream of consciousness that the dumb munition came from, but he's not
the dumb munition. And taking ONE character's viewpoint and attributing that to the author is extremely shortsighted. How on god's green earth do you expect an author to explore a topic if they can't have characters supporting different sides?
EDIT: I've now seen more of your complaining about this story line, Ken. And your bull-headed assertions that 'the continuity problem is only for the person being cloned' really makes me scratch my head. If the person you care about just died, why should you spin up a new version of them? To make yourself feel better? The one you miss is still dead, still died. You are bringing a new consciousness into the universe to be a replacement goldfish. It's not absurd that people have a major problem with that. Yes, it's the same person, bar whatever failed to be backed up. But let's repeat it again: The person you're missing died. That stream of consciousness has ended. Even if you bring back the person you're STILL going to have to mourn the one who died.
Except for the fact that the continuity problem SHOULD only matter to the people 'suffering' it. What should I care if YOU think I'm not who I am? You brought me back for no reason besides you missed me, and now you expect me to NOT be who you brought me back to BE? That's just idiotic and hypocritical. And it isn't just ONE character. EVERYBODY is treating Kaff and Schlock like they aren't THEM anymore, despite that being THE EXACT REASON THEY WERE BROUGHT BACK.
Either you THINK you're the person you are, or you don't. Other people don't get to decide who you are, and SCREW YOU if you think they do. THAT is what people are doing with Kaff. Forcing THEIR view of who he is onto him. And so far EVERYBODY is doing this. Even Tailor, who KNOWS FULL WELL that live backups and constant syncing maintains who you are, because HE DOES THAT. THE AIS DO THAT. REMEMBER THE DAYSTROM-TINGO DRYDOCK BOTS?!
Well, maybe this is the part of post-mortality that we'll be exploring in this story arc. While I certainly would say that this Tagon is the same one who has commanded the Toughs for many years, it's not quite accurate to say that he's the Tagon who used himself as a dumb delivery system. I'm not sure Tagon senior can separate those two concepts, but then I'm not sure it would be easy for most people to do so.
But they have plenty of experience with someone taking a bullet for someone else, and getting brain damage as a result (nanny bagging isn't perfect) . If they didn't consider that, or terraporting, or hell, the old wormgates, as a "they" and "you" situation, whats new now?
Terraporting and wormgates should be seen as continuity problems, I agree. They're basically Star Trek teleporters, with all the philosophical problems they provide. But nobody in-comic has ever treated them as such, possibly because you only ever get out what you put in. More narrativly, they allowed the plot to move forward and Howard didn't feel like tackling the philosophical side. Nannybags don't have a stream of consciousness problem though. Nannybags just keep the brain from degrading, and the body is regrown around it.[/quote]
But there STILL IS degradation and injury. A lot more is lost when requiring a nanny bag than Kaff lost because of his backup being slightly out of date.