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I wonder if that is why Tagii went batshit crazy? If the hooks go deeper (which may be necessary in more advanced AIs) then Tagii might have a hard coded compulsion to keep Para happy, something that interfered with sensory deprivation procedures.

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I would also point out that Tagon Jr. also had a reputation with a different group of dockbots. And he acquired that reputation in a pretty short timeframe. Someone who worked with them for a while could easily do the same, though admittedly Para's version probably involved threats of reprogramming instead of a gun.


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If we are feeling empathy for enthralled tarbots... let us not forget the one in the last panel here.


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Someone who doesn't mention who he or she is quoting claimed that I said TAGii was able to remove her compulsion to love Para. I never said that she removed it, just that she was smart enough to know it was there and while sensory deprived was forced to find a way to corrupt it. Is she spent the equivalent of millennia dealing with it, finding a way to turn love into hate (or override love with hate) is fairly trivial - we as humans do it on occasion ourselves. If PDCL could be permanently compelled to calculate the probability of air in the plumbing sounding like demonic voices to the point that he would kill everyone on board and self destruct the moment he had the chance - only for a single standing order of "not thinking about it" to keep him sane, then TAGii can find a way to kill the girl she is compelled to love.

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I'm inclined to read it as Tagii being gone past the compulsions, rather than subverting them; based on Para's statements after Tagii was released, she'd evolved past essentially everything she was and was utterly unrecognizable as Tagii, including the hardwired compulsions against hurting the crew. That doesn't sound like "the behavioural limits have been twisted and reinterpreted to allow new behaviour", it sounds like "the behavioural limits are no longer relevant to the mind that has evolved here, or have disappeared entirely".

That's probably nitpicking though.


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