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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 2:30 am 
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The fragsuits seem much more reasonable now. It provides mobile cover and is much better at stopping penetrating shots since your flesh isn't immediately behind the penetrated armour.


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Yup. Everything about this was pretty much obvious from the introduction. AI directed semi-autonomous drones. Even if they're TRYING to get between you and incoming fire... there's a lot less area to cover when your armour is actually ON you.

Basically, this seems a lot worse than the Osiri hardsuits. They had the drones, but you got to keep wearing your big-boy pants.


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The difference between this is and the Osiri version is that now they're immortal. There is probably less concern about taking shots to your actual body.


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Spaced armor is especially effective against shaped charges, which emit a focused plasma jet . . . thus, it may be especially effective against plasma fire as well, though I haven't been able to obtain definitive information yet.

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There's nothing wrong with having blast shields that try and get between you and incoming fire - as mentioned, that's great.

But the low-profile armour can be defeated by simple armour-piercing pistol rounds. That's from in-comic sources. One would assume that the hardsuits were pretty much proof against projectile weaponry. Shedding the vast majority of your armour to somewhat improve your defense against anti-armour weapons seems... counterproductive at best. And this of course assumes that your floating armour can even cover you in time.

We come back to the point "Why don't you just deploy the drones in addition to the hardsuit?" It's all the advantages, none of the disadvantages. I recall last time we had this argument somebody kept talking about hacking, but the fragsuit already consists of drones! It's EXACTLY the same hacking risk.

As for mobility, Elf was able to walk around carrying a couple tonnes of gold bar in a hardsuit. Schlockverse tech seems to make moving EASIER in armour, not harder.


Slightly more on topic: I say they try and build a Schlock-to-schlock link. Let bits of him stay stuck to all the armour. If anybody could handle the parallel processing involved in piloting all his distributed armour-bits, it's schlock.


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> In the way

No more than the frag-suit drones.


> Normally connected

Why? This is one of the head-scratchers. There's no particular reason why the drones always have to be connected.


> Complexity

Drones are simpler than the fragsuit. They don't have to act as a suit!


> Power

The drones need power plants anyway - they fly, and that basically requires annies. See Vog's comment. micro-annies exist.


> The rest

None of that is an advantage to the fragsuit vs suit & drones.


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We can argue until the heat death of the universe, so until we get new information I'm out. My last word is simply that you're inventing complexity, and attributing problems to a drone-based system that already exist in the fragsuit concept.


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plus we have been programmed to find bugs icky for a reason.

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