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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 8:56 pm 
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Doesn't make it wrong.

I still am betting what will bite them in the ass is having the tech to make the prisoners safe, and failing to do so.


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Presuming, of course, that they failed to do so . . .

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2018 11:38 pm 
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Then they are idiots for not dumping a gestalt for backup along with the prisoners'.


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Assuming they had time to do so. Being suddenly vaporized out of nowhere isn't somethign you'd normally expect to have happen, otherwise they'd have had more frequent backups than they currently do. If all the events of this battle have not been synced to backup, it seems unlikely that their newest acquisitions have, either.


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It also takes time for RED-REO nanites to establish themselves in someone's system. While that time frame has not been established, it it took days for the ones given to the Toughs to be fully integrated.

Not to mention that there's questions of consent and whether Srabben and his crew would have given it.


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I doubt they would have consented.

In which case, legal can muddy the waters incredibly.

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Not to mention they didn't even manage to protect THEMSELVES from it adequately, so there's no chance in hell they could have protected some random newly-acquired guests from something that was completely unexpected like that.


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It's pretty clear the nannites are available in system if not ubiquitous already (or there would be no revival effort).Making a local backup and/or providing for off-site backup should have been added to standard prisoner processing.

"There's nothing they could have done in this case, so you can't blame them for not taking reasonable steps" only provides so much coverage.

(I wonder if while connecting Para's "liberated" friend up to the resuscitation equipment is going to show a bunch of passengers and show that somebody was thinking)


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Offsite backups are evidently uncommon at this point in time, so providing them for a temporary detainment in safe conditions (the Toughs were unaware any government that had Long Guns was likely to use them) would exceed reasonable minimums. I think all models of the nanites have offsite backup capability because why wouldn't they, but it takes a good bit of data storage and bandwidth and the average person isn't that worried about winding up dead enough to need one. So I doubt they're going to be considered mandatory for prisoners in ordinary circumstances; prisons are not usually at risk of being atomized. And creating a warden-controlled backup has serious ethical issues, while sending updates to their existing backup is an enormous security/flight risk, because they don't have to be dead to restore from backup.


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