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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:10 pm 
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Did anyone call that the pa'anuri might be behind this? I certainly didn't, but now that I've thought about it, it's not at all surprising that they have long gun technology.

That said, can anyone explain to me why they have to brief Petey in person instead of giving him a call? Are they afraid that the pa'anuri might snoop on their communications?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:27 pm 
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I don't remember anybody calling it.

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Welll,.. yes. And no.
I suspected the Pa'anuri were behind it, as they were the only entity we knew of, other than maybe the O'benn, who wanted everyone fighting everyone.
And the O'benn lost a vessel with no warning, too.
I didn't suspect they were shooting directly. I was hung up on it being a massive false-flag operation by one of their shills, rather than them firing randomly into a dark room.

At this point. Pa'anuri are just the Usual Suspects for something of this breadth.


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I think the thing that prevented anyone from calling this is what Bala-Amin is asking about in the 10th panel. Nobody could reasonably expect that the Pa'anuri could fire from the Andromeda galaxy to the Milky Way galaxy and hit something in real time.

My guess is that they're not. One Pa'anuri is hanging out in the Milky Way and relaying targets back to Andromeda using the power of their core generator.

Ironically this means that Crazy Chinook's war is pointless even if she wins. If she kills every long gun in the galaxy she still won't get the actual culprits.


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Except Bala's interjection makes no sense.

It's common knowledge that FTL communications exist. We and best informed characters in universe know that it is possible to teraport to Andromeda (Petey had to send prisoners to Andromedan reeducation camp/penal battalion of his, after all), I would expect Bala to be among those briefed on this fact (UNS certainly knows, Breya was there during her stint as ambassador). There is no reason why it wouldn't possible, and no reason to think this wouldn't be possible. The only real barrier here is light speed, which is not a barrier in-story, everything else is a matter of scale.

That being said, I'm not sold on this explanation. If long gun targeting data really has 5 parameters (because it's supposed to be 5 dimensional IIRC), you only need 5 shots (unless you deliberately fire them to be on some embedded hypersurface, then you would need more, but there's no reason to deliberately shoot along hypersurface when you are trying to probe entire space) to map parameter-phase space with target timespace. Pa'anuri should have been able to nuke Petey with 6th shot.


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Heh, I guess the Colonel was right, it IS a case of someone not having qualified on the weapon they're firing.

Also, supremely unlucky for our main cast, that in a galaxy filled with far larger annie plants, they'd hit the tiny ones on M39.


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The pattern she's observed is that what she and everyone else seems to be assuming are "long gun" strikes are working inwards from the rim of the galaxy towards the center.

"It's the Pa'anuri and they're trying to shoot Petey" isn't an explanation I had considered.
(My pet theory is more: "It's the All-star and they're trying to get all the FTL-capable species to kill each other so they'll be left alone and not rediscovered until more such species arise. And no, Putzho is not in on this plan." )


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No ideas on why they can't just give Petey a call?


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Though honestly I don't know why they don't tell Chinook this in the first place. It's not like she has any love for the Pa'anuri.


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Ah, there's the answer to my question: https://www.schlockmercenary.com/2018-06-11

Chinook is jamming comms, which makes sense.


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Maybe Captain Sorlie thinks everyone should cluster around the core, to act as chaff?


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It's probably less of a targeting thing than keeping people from getting information on what is going on inside Eina-Afa.

It is after all filled with a whole lot of civilians, and figuring out where to target to kill Chinook is not an easy problem from the outside.


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