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PostPosted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 10:09 pm 
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The Paanuri have found Petey!!
Or perhaps not.
This looks more like a game of intergalactic Battleship.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:35 am 
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Until Petey figures out how to shoot back, the metaphor is more properly "shooting fish in a barrel".


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:07 am 
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Even if Petey doesn't know how to shoot long guns into another galaxy, he has forces in Andromeda, so he can just site his long guns there.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 8:25 am 
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Interesting question: why have they only just now started using Long Guns? They've seen the last round or more of Long Gun warfare, so if they've got the capacity to create and operate them directly or trusted baryonic minions they could've been using them since the start of the Core War. Granted, they might not be able to communicate tactical targeting data personally, but it seems unlikely they'd invent an inter-galactic targeting system without managing at least comparable intra-galactic targeting. And they seemingly weren't using the Andromada core generator at the start of the war, but couldn't have built it from scratch since.

Are they only willing to let their baryonic allies use technology their rivals are already deploying?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:00 pm 
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The Andromedan core generator seems to have only recently been finished, though I don't feel like looking up the strip in which Petey mentions it being turned on.

As for why the Pa'anuri haven't used long guns before, perhaps they only recently finished construction and calibration of their scope? "Galaxy-sized" sounds like it would take a lot of work.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:17 pm 
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Nemoricus wrote:
The Andromedan core generator seems to have only recently been finished, though I don't feel like looking up the strip in which Petey mentions it being turned on.

As for why the Pa'anuri haven't used long guns before, perhaps they only recently finished construction and calibration of their scope? "Galaxy-sized" sounds like it would take a lot of work.

How long will it take Petey? Especially with eyes in the galaxy?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 9:10 pm 
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Interesting question: why have they only just now started using Long Guns? They've seen the last round or more of Long Gun warfare, so if they've got the capacity to create and operate them directly or trusted baryonic minions they could've been using them since the start of the Core War. Granted, they might not be able to communicate tactical targeting data personally, but it seems unlikely they'd invent an inter-galactic targeting system without managing at least comparable intra-galactic targeting. And they seemingly weren't using the Andromada core generator at the start of the war, but couldn't have built it from scratch since.

Are they only willing to let their baryonic allies use technology their rivals are already deploying?

The Pa'anuri had a more effective weapon in the form of the core generator bomb - and they didn't have to invest any effort into it, since the Gatekeepers were doing it for them.

Then that plot failed, and gave Petey a core generator. That's probably when the Pa'anuri started working on their own long guns.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 2:33 am 
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Nemoricus wrote:
The Andromedan core generator seems to have only recently been finished, though I don't feel like looking up the strip in which Petey mentions it being turned on.

It's been about eight books...

However it was an even earlier book where Petey failed to use sufficient force to rescue the Toughs from a bad spot...

So the Andromeda core generator may be even older than 8 books ago.


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 4:17 am 
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If it's possible to teraport/holepunch to Andromeda, and you're a super AI, what are the odds you stopped at just one galaxy?

I presume Petey is Von Neumanning the rest of the universe as fast as he possibly can (which might be really slow, if he's gotta rebuild infrastructure at each hop)


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 5:33 pm 
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What I wonder is, with how much time has already passed in meatspace, how Petey hasn't figured out that he's being targeted himself. If he has the time for playing galactic overlord-slash-gray-eminence, he should have a cycle or two to spare for analyzing the long-gun target patterns.

Ah well...still, here's hoping the psychobear gets taken down a peg. Last two books, he's been failing at treating others as people again.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:17 pm 
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Petey tends to consistently over-estimate his own abilities (which in part manifests as his overbearing smugness, which leads to everyone wanting to take him down a peg). Him assuming he is invincible at the galactic core and that his enemies cannot effectively target him is part of the hubris he's displayed since he was introduced.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:20 pm 
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dire wrote:
Petey tends to consistently over-estimate his own abilities (which in part manifests as his overbearing smugness, which leads to everyone wanting to take him down a peg). Him assuming he is invincible at the galactic core and that his enemies cannot effectively target him is part of the hubris he's displayed since he was introduced.


It doesn't help that almost all his enemies are incompetent.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:04 pm 
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There's also the fact that AIs have been consistently shown to be bad at intuiting conclusions. They can predict things very very well, but organic minds have been shown to better at making leaps of intuition. The Pa'anuri firing at random from an entire galaxy away is not the immediately obvious conclusion to draw from the pattern of long gun hits. It requires some big assumptions about Pa'anuri capabilities when the much more likely conclusion is that someone inside the galaxy is testing their own long guns.


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