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 Post subject: Prudence
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 8:59 pm 
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Wait, are you trying to say that this all may have happened because those previous civilizations were PARANOID about the disappearance of the one BEFORE them? Meaning this whole thing could have just started because some Proto-origin civilization like, ascended or something, and nobody found the note they left taped to the fridge?


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 Post subject: Re: Prudence
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:16 pm 
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Kendrakirai wrote:
Wait, are you trying to say that this all may have happened because those previous civilizations were PARANOID about the disappearance of the one BEFORE them? Meaning this whole thing could have just started because some Proto-origin civilization like, ascended or something, and nobody found the note they left taped to the fridge?

I think the prologue might just be the reason Eina-Afa was created. We'll have to wait for the final part of the prologue to find out

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 Post subject: Re: Prudence
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 9:50 pm 
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grahamf wrote:
Kendrakirai wrote:
Wait, are you trying to say that this all may have happened because those previous civilizations were PARANOID about the disappearance of the one BEFORE them? Meaning this whole thing could have just started because some Proto-origin civilization like, ascended or something, and nobody found the note they left taped to the fridge?

I think the prologue might just be the reason Eina-Afa was created. We'll have to wait for the final part of the prologue to find out


And yet the Oafans died out as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Prudence
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:07 pm 
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Zeus67 wrote:
grahamf wrote:
Kendrakirai wrote:
Wait, are you trying to say that this all may have happened because those previous civilizations were PARANOID about the disappearance of the one BEFORE them? Meaning this whole thing could have just started because some Proto-origin civilization like, ascended or something, and nobody found the note they left taped to the fridge?

I think the prologue might just be the reason Eina-Afa was created. We'll have to wait for the final part of the prologue to find out


And yet the Oafans died out as well.

But not before being prepared.

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 Post subject: Re: Prudence
PostPosted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 10:19 pm 
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What I think we will find out is that the Paanuri are involved in all of these extinctions.

My guess is that they waited until long guns were developed and then just provided a spark for a generalized galactic war.
Probably the Oafans were the first one to discover them and fight them, instead of other civilizations, but could not win so they retreated and hid.
The gatekeepers made the same discovery and worked a truce, of course the Paanuri were actually working on a weapons to kill all baryonic life in the galaxy. Unfortunately for them the Toughs discovered their galactic IED just at the nick of time.

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 Post subject: Re: Prudence
PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2018 5:33 pm 
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What I'm getting SO FAR is that each iteration found that the previous had vanished and decided that Something Was Up and, quite possibly, decided to build their own little bolt holes to hide away from the rest of the galaxy in, leaving all their junk behind to decay and for the next ones to discover. Every so often there were wars, like what drove the All Star into hiding, or the war against the DMEs, or the one where the Oafans 'inhaled stars', but For the most part, they just...HID.


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 Post subject: Re: Prudence
PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2018 11:42 pm 
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I thought the Oafans were 'inhaling stars' for raw materials to build stuff. Later someone threw stars and other big stuff around, but it sounded like that was different.
(Oafans wouldn't have intentionally wrecked the world forge, for example)
Hiding? didn't seem like it, but could be - maybe there are any number of all-stars around from the various past civilizations?
Maybe any number of them crazier than t'kuts afa.


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 Post subject: Re: Prudence
PostPosted: Sun Sep 09, 2018 12:06 am 
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We know of two major extinction sources, the Pa'anuri and the End Guns. Of course, the End Guns are just a method, whereas the Pa'anuri have hostile intent, so it's pretty safe to assume most of the historical blame is on them. In fact we already know from the Gatekeepers that the Pa'anuri have been responsible for major extinctions in previous cycles, and that THIS cycle went on longer than most thanks to their gate technology suppressing the Teraport, which is what the Pa'anuri really hate. Of course, it's possible that some of that was a lie the Pa'anuri were using in their own quest to end things once and for all by detonating the core

Anyway it seems silly to assume scenarios completely unrelated to the core conflict of the comic, at least until we can somehow eliminate that conflict as the right one. Until the comic puts forth some kind of evidence that the Pa'anuri are NOT behind all the scary xenoarcheology there's no reason to assume otherwise.


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 Post subject: Re: Prudence
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:20 pm 
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Actually, do we know that?

Lets compare the 4 non-flashback prologues, to what people have said they thought was true.

1. 73 million years ago, something between the size of a small moon and a planet passed by an ort cloud in darkness/engine off state.
2. 19 million years later, a civilization finds that a prior civ died off/was killed effectively instantly. A few centuries is a blink of an eye on this scale.
3. 42 million years later, the oafans found out that this second civ found evidence of the first civ, found that the first civ disappeared. The second civ disappeared. The Oafans hid.
4. 2 million years later, the Oafans decided to hide faster.

We have evidence of destruction 73 million years ago.
Probably evidence of destruction 19 million years later. (This puts a cycle at about 20 million years).
42 Million years later, what should be just over two cycles later, a "We are fearful, lets hide".
And 2 million years later, the "hide" operation is still going on.

There is no evidence of catastrophic destruction in the last 54 million years, only fear that it might happen unless hiding happens.

That's very difference from the old Oafan belief that galactic-wide extinctions happen frequently, and the "Can of Sky" was built to carry knowledge across the extinction barrier.

In Summary: Modern Oafans are clueless about what really happened. The old Oafans being woken up can probably correct the history books.

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 Post subject: Re: Prudence
PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2018 9:35 pm 
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"A very compelling reason" and "She wasn't doing it quick enough" suggests they weren't merely spooked

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 Post subject: Re: Prudence
PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:11 pm 
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First, Let me correct something that I misspoke earlier:

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Four chapters in one prologue. Not four prologues.

And even if it is four prologues, that's better than a flashback.

Second: The kill-and-upload had been going on for 2 million years. That's long enough to be an indication that it was much much longer than the extinction event.

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