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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 12:27 pm 
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So is Petey switching to a no-annie-plant strategy now?

That ... would be very, very costly. The only way to win the war against the Panuri is to lose the war against everyone else.

(Title was an attempt to make fun of the costume designer from Incredibles. Did it work?)

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 2:51 pm 
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keybounce wrote:
So is Petey switching to a no-annie-plant strategy now?

That ... would be very, very costly. The only way to win the war against the Panuri is to lose the war against everyone else.

(Title was an attempt to make fun of the costume designer from Incredibles. Did it work?)

Or at least no annie plants near the non-combatants, he quite obviously hasn't gotten rid of all his annies yet as Extortioners are pretty much an annie plant with a ship attached


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 5:05 pm 
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Perhaps no annie plants on predictable trajectories or near collateral?
Random walking would help if there is any lag in the targeting, but a miss is still unhealthy for your environment.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:12 pm 
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For crying out loud, Petey, just tell him that the problem is the enemy is targeting annie plants, and you can avoid this whole argument!


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 8:22 pm 
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Yeah, Howard's been engaging in this style of drama nonsense more and more lately. It's wearisome.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:12 pm 
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Random Wanderer wrote:
For crying out loud, Petey, just tell him that the problem is the enemy is targeting annie plants, and you can avoid this whole argument!

I's possible that all his IQ points are being reallocated to parallel apologies

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 10:30 pm 
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grahamf wrote:
Random Wanderer wrote:
For crying out loud, Petey, just tell him that the problem is the enemy is targeting annie plants, and you can avoid this whole argument!

I's possible that all his IQ points are being reallocated to parallel apologies


If I ignore the last panel of every strip, since they were terraported, I get about 26 seconds, and only 12 since the issue of them not being able to bring the ship was brought up. That's not too long to get around to the topic of why they can't bring a gun.

Remember, we, the audience, have known about the DME's targeting annie plants for weeks now, but these characters have only just figured it out in the last seconds or hours, depending on which ones you're talking to. That's not too long for news of a new development to propagate.

Also, this is a conversational tree. If Kaff Tagon had only asked "why", rather than jump to an assumption, and express that assumption, he'd already know. Also, if Petey had spent just a little less time trying to salve Kaff Tagons' ego, and that of his crew, he might have managed to explain why sooner. In either case, I don't see this conversation as having an unnatural pacing...once you account for the fact that several days of strips boils down to potentially less than a few minutes of action. (Captain Sorlee had longer to stew on the information, as Breath Weapon steamed to the edge of the TAD, a trip that presumably took hours, only to be bottled up again, than has Petey or Kaff Tagon.)


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:05 pm 
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Probably the best way to explain is the way Ennesby did it back in the day:
Remember the exploding pants?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 11:23 pm 
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Presumably Petey feels he has the time to talk things out. If he felt they were in danger of being targeted right that moment he probably would have teraported them right of their armor. This way he can let Tagon get his indignation out of his system. After all Tagon is going to have an even harder time selling this to his troops so he needs to be thoroughly convinced.

Just imagine how Schlock is going to react.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 7:46 am 
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Honestly, I'm disappointed in Petey. Tagon explained the situation in under 15 words.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:52 am 
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He said no weapons either. The Toughs have small arms that don't use annie plants, so it can't be exclusively about annie plants. It strikes me as likely Petey is offering refuge in a place where only his remotes are allowed to have weapons.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:08 pm 
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(name here) wrote:
He said no weapons either. The Toughs have small arms that don't use annie plants, so it can't be exclusively about annie plants. It strikes me as likely Petey is offering refuge in a place where only his remotes are allowed to have weapons.
If Petey meant no weapons, he'd either not allow most of the Toughs on board without stripping them of their booster nannies, or he's meaning only STS and heavy weaponry. And Schlock would need to be transferred solely as data on a chip somewhere.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 8:17 pm 
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And here he goes stripping Schlock of his gun. The "no annies" was a logical step, that's just an idiot plot.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 10:31 pm 
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sotanaht wrote:
And here he goes stripping Schlock of his gun. The "no annies" was a logical step, that's just an idiot plot.

Idiot plot? Given the sergeant's enthusiasm for using his plasma cannon, I would class it as a fairly reasonable precaution.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:09 pm 
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Nemoricus wrote:
sotanaht wrote:
And here he goes stripping Schlock of his gun. The "no annies" was a logical step, that's just an idiot plot.

Idiot plot? Given the sergeant's enthusiasm for using his plasma cannon, I would class it as a fairly reasonable precaution.

It's a fairly quick way to make an even bigger mess of things. Every single time Schlock has been without his plasma cannon the situation has made people regret it. Either he manages to do even more damage with "smaller" arms, or events conspire that his gun is desperately needed. Pattern recognition alone should be enough to tell Petey taking it away is a bad idea, and frankly, there's no good reason for it.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 02, 2018 11:20 pm 
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sotanaht wrote:
Nemoricus wrote:
sotanaht wrote:
And here he goes stripping Schlock of his gun. The "no annies" was a logical step, that's just an idiot plot.

Idiot plot? Given the sergeant's enthusiasm for using his plasma cannon, I would class it as a fairly reasonable precaution.

It's a fairly quick way to make an even bigger mess of things. Every single time Schlock has been without his plasma cannon the situation has made people regret it. Either he manages to do even more damage with "smaller" arms, or events conspire that his gun is desperately needed. Pattern recognition alone should be enough to tell Petey taking it away is a bad idea, and frankly, there's no good reason for it.

Plus Schlock can go a long time without randomly firing it. If he can't see the enemy he should be as safe as daisies.

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sotanaht wrote:
Nemoricus wrote:
sotanaht wrote:
And here he goes stripping Schlock of his gun. The "no annies" was a logical step, that's just an idiot plot.

Idiot plot? Given the sergeant's enthusiasm for using his plasma cannon, I would class it as a fairly reasonable precaution.

It's a fairly quick way to make an even bigger mess of things. Every single time Schlock has been without his plasma cannon the situation has made people regret it. Either he manages to do even more damage with "smaller" arms, or events conspire that his gun is desperately needed. Pattern recognition alone should be enough to tell Petey taking it away is a bad idea, and frankly, there's no good reason for it.


That's like saying you should never give Tagon a ship because he will inevitably lose it. Sure that's the way the story has worked out, but there's no reasonable way to predict that it will keep happening. Plus we only see the exciting bits where Schlock does need his gun. He's been on Petey's station three or four times without needing it, and Petey has banned things like it before.

That said he probably will end up needing it this time, but that's story convention since now it's been specifically mentioned.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 11:21 am 
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You should sell Tagon ships, and take out generous insurance policies on both his ship and any battleplates in the area until the premiums go up a few orders of magnitude.


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Arcanestomper wrote:
If he felt they were in danger of being targeted right that moment he probably would have teraported them right of their armor.


and there it is


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And that's why Petey took his time explaining. He knew if he could convince Tagon first he'd be able to proceed with the actual evacuation in no time at all.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2018 10:03 pm 
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Arcanestomper wrote:
And that's why Petey took his time explaining. He knew if he could convince Tagon first he'd be able to proceed with the actual evacuation in no time at all.

either that or he was stalling while he computer the exact stripaport.

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