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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2018 10:29 pm 
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So far in the Shclockverse, all civilizations have died when they reach a certain point.

I am suspecting that the Pa'anuri have something to do with this, because it looks like when Annie plants become ubiquitous they appear and start shooting without bothering to ask questions. They trigger wars by using long guns, and soon the entire galaxy is in flames.

The Ancient Oafans discovered that and went into hiding inside the Can-in-the-sky were no annie plant was allowed and eventually they went the route of the Allstar and digitized everybody.

The builders of the Allstar probably discovered this too and choose digital life as well.

Petey has probably deducted that the best way to kill this cycle is to stop using annie plants at least while the Pa'anuri are a threat. But that means that the age of easy and inexpensive energy is coming to an end and that will probably create galactic disruption and quite a few wars. Will the other polities follow Petey's lead and start ditching annie plants in order to keep their cities safe?

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Problem: the PTUs of the Oafan ships and the World Forge are needed to support the now immortal galactic civilizations in order to produce annie plants to produce energy. If fusion plants were energetically a viable option this might not be an issue worth warring over.

Also, the Oafans had avoided DME extermination long enough to advance beyond current levels of tech and powerplant size and they also warred with the DMEs (and possibly civs before them, Oisri is older than the can full of sky IIRC)

Current civs going retrograde to hide is too obvious, it is effectively what the Oafan and All Star did before. I think what Petey did is a stop gap measure.


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Remember, the Essperin don't use Annie Plants, and they have a reasonably large, thriving, and long-term civilization.

And it appears that the Teraport doesn't technically require annie plants.

The only remaining question is... does the Long Gun technically require annie plants in order to work? I'm guessing that it does, but it's hypothetically possible that you MIGHT be able to build a very small one using only fusion power, and maybe a black hole or two.


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Wasn't there also something about Teraports also causing DMEs severe pain?

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A trick of the ancient Oafans, which even Petey has yet to duplicate. Hence him getting rid of his/turning off his annie plants.

He may figure it out in time, but the Pa'anuri are targeting him right now, requiring immediate action on his part.

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Petey hasn't STOPPED using annie's, he just moved them farther from the city.


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