The Nightstar Zoo

Nightstar IRC Network - irc.nightstar.net
It is currently Mon Sep 06, 2010 8:23 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 72 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3

Should Sea of Insanity look for a new host?
Yes . . . and I might be willing to help pay via donations/auctions. 48%  48%  [ 15 ]
I don't really care. I can handle the glitches. 48%  48%  [ 15 ]
Absolutely not. Just stay with Keenspace and deal with the occasional outage. 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
Total votes : 31

Author Message
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 6:36 pm 
Offline
Entertainment
Entertainment

Joined: Sat Aug 17, 2002 3:40 pm
Posts: 639
Location: Out of Sight, Out of Mind
sworkerpt wrote:
And in terms of webcomics, SOI is one of the best out there. The plot is addicting! Have you ever thought about writing in addition to drawing?



Um, well, seeing as the only reason I actually draw the comic is because no one else would, I guess you could say so . . . :)

To be honest, I don't and really have never had any real interest in drawing for a living. It's an okay hobby, but it's not easy for me, and I've got massive gaps in my technical ability. The only reason you see my art in SoI is because I didn't think the story would work in anything but comic format and I couldn't find an artist (and I'm also a massive control-freak, which means my choices would have been kind of limited anyway). 95% of the stuff I've ever written and plotted has been prose, and even though I'm still far from Pulitzer-quality I'm WAY more advanced in writing than I am in art, which you can definitely tell from the first . . . uh . . . 200+ strips . . . and remember, I am a Creative Writing major. *G* I've actually been published in a minor fanzine and spent . . . oh, two or three years pulling a biweekly deadline on an e-zine while doing a serial fantasy story, but that was pretty juvenile stuff that I did under pseudonyms, and I don't feel like sharing. Trust me, you aren't missing anything. Bleh.

I admit I'm always a little bemused when someone asks this question . . . and no, sworkerpt, I'm not singling you out because you're far from the first. :) It's just that writing, like any other skill, isn't something you don't just sit down and DO one day -- or at least, not with an astounding amount of proficiency. Even highly intelligent people with great ideas and great characters can fall prey to glitches in "invisible" things like structure and pacing, which is why it's pretty much guaranteed that the first thing you ever write will never be published. In fact, if you get anywhere NEAR published without churning out at LEAST two thousand pages of unbearable tripe first, then I officially hate you.

Writing is kind of like cooking: even if you start with a talent for the fundamentals, half the meal is the presentation. Most writers spend their entire lives learning how to make the meat of their story look as good as possible, and never stop learning. I definitely would not have been able to write SoI without a solid background in prose first -- not because I think the strip is a work of unbearable beauty or anything, but simply because it would be an absolute trainwreck if not for the four dozen or so projects the proceeded it, whose mistakes I've since learned from and fixed here. :)

Being a writer, I'm obviously terribly biased in this respect . . . probably especially since I've had a lot of training in literary deconstruction as well as doing my own stuff on a regular basis. This hardly makes me superior -- actually, I think it makes me a massive snob more than anything -- but I do have a different perspective on some things. (For instance, it's pretty obvious to me that the literary critics who believe Shakespeare's works were actually some kind of secret round-robin held by the playwrights of the age couldn't be fiction-writers themselves, since any fiction writer -- or hell, most non-fiction writers -- would know that there are just some stylistic and tonal consistancies that more than one person just CANNOT duplicate for so long. Writing-styles are like signatures: different for every individual. To me, it's inconceivable that, say, Herman Melville could have been the ghost-writer for half of Ernest Hemmingway's stories; that sort of thing is plausible only if you have no freaking idea what you're talking about. . . . But I digress.)

. . . wow, I veered way off-topic again. Sorry, re: my habit of latching on to an only tangentally-related subject and using it as an excuse to climb on a soapbox. :) In case you're wondering, this is also while I'll go on "I'm not an artist-artist" rambles every now and then . . . though I share some technical knowledge, I've got a writer's mindset. I guess I get slightly titchy about it sometimes because most people's initial comments are about the drawn aspects of the strip, which is understandable since that's the most prominent aspect of a comic but is still very odd to me as I'm not used to anything taking the focus away from my writing. I am quite the spoiled brat. :)

_________________
Sea of Insanity
(http://fractuslux.comicgenesis.com)


Top
 Profile  
 
Sponsor

Top
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Sep 03, 2004 12:29 pm 
Offline
Reptile House Exhibit
Reptile House Exhibit
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2003 8:52 am
Posts: 208
Location: Atlantis
Just a quick question since I'm bored, curious, and haven't posted much lately:

Are there still plans to move SoI to another server? If so, what's the status on that?

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 3:41 pm 
Offline
Entertainment
Entertainment

Joined: Sat Aug 17, 2002 3:40 pm
Posts: 639
Location: Out of Sight, Out of Mind
Right now, things are stalled (though I will note I've retained the $150 or so people've donated for the cause in my Paypal account). I'll see what I can do when I'm overseas -- it's likely the distance and renewed emphasis on academics is going to make me very, very interested in the strip again. *cough*

_________________
Sea of Insanity
(http://fractuslux.comicgenesis.com)


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 4:10 pm 
Offline
Monkey House Exhibit
Monkey House Exhibit
User avatar

Joined: Sun Feb 23, 2003 2:33 am
Posts: 569
Location: Belfair, WA
I thought this might be of interest to you - http://p4host.com/webhosting.php

Their starter plan is 300 mb of space and a 12 gig bandwidth for about $45 a year. I've been with them for near a year, and so far they've been pretty good.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Mon Sep 06, 2004 10:30 pm 
Offline
Concession Worker
Concession Worker

Joined: Fri Feb 07, 2003 7:34 pm
Posts: 1347
Location: Boston
LKM wrote:
Right now, things are stalled (though I will note I've retained the $150 or so people've donated for the cause in my Paypal account). I'll see what I can do when I'm overseas -- it's likely the distance and renewed emphasis on academics is going to make me very, very interested in the strip again. *cough*


Is this still an issue, really? Keenspace doesn't seem to have messed up that
much lately, and from what problems a friend has had I can certainly see that
going to web hosting that costs money is EXTREMELY not a cure-all. Even if
a company is doing well now, that may not be the case in the future after it
gets bought by another company or some other problem comes up. Plus
there's the whole issue of possible increases in costs when more people start
viewing the comic. If I'm not mistaken, Keenspace doesn't cost money and
doesn't start costing money if your comic becomes really popular; if anything,
you get upgraded to Keenspot.

I mean, well, I may well not know all the issues involved, but as paid hosting
doesn't equal Perfection and Never Again Another Problem and as I've not
noticed a major Keenspace problem for quite some time (while seeing non-Keenspace
sites vanish occasionally) I'm not seeing what benefits are gained by making
the site suddenly become a financial drain.

_________________
V. S. Greene : klyfix@aol.com : Boston, near Arkham...
Klyfix''s Journal Thingy
A rodent with mad skillz, uh, no.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:39 am 
Offline
Reptile House Exhibit
Reptile House Exhibit
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2003 8:52 am
Posts: 208
Location: Atlantis
Klyfix wrote:
Is this still an issue, really? Keenspace doesn't seem to have messed up that much lately [...]


That's why I was asking. It occurred to me that Keenspace has been behaving, so I became curious as to whether plans to move were still in progress...plus I was bored.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:23 am 
Offline
Concession Worker
Concession Worker

Joined: Fri Feb 07, 2003 7:34 pm
Posts: 1347
Location: Boston
Searlait wrote:
Klyfix wrote:
Is this still an issue, really? Keenspace doesn't seem to have messed up that much lately [...]


That's why I was asking. It occurred to me that Keenspace has been behaving, so I became curious as to whether plans to move were still in progress...plus I was bored.


Yeah, I was looking in the forums and noticed that the most recent post was
in this thread, after quite a while with nothing new in it.

Naturally, it's LKM's business as to where the comic goes; I just figure that there's
not a whole lot of sense in moving it to someplace where hosting will cost money
(potentially a LOT of money, even if that's not the case initially) and where very
likely stuff will still go wrong. About the only way it's my concern is if the comic
ended up being a financial drain to LKM and thus it ended.

Silly question, Searlait; what's the avatar?

_________________
V. S. Greene : klyfix@aol.com : Boston, near Arkham...
Klyfix''s Journal Thingy
A rodent with mad skillz, uh, no.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 2:09 pm 
Offline
Energizer Bunny
User avatar

Joined: Wed May 22, 2002 12:24 am
Posts: 1607
Searlait's avatar is a woman, lying down, her body extending off to the right, with flowers or something in her hair.

Vorn


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: OT quicky reply
PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:20 pm 
Offline
Reptile House Exhibit
Reptile House Exhibit
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 26, 2003 8:52 am
Posts: 208
Location: Atlantis
Hehe...it's a screenshot from Evanescence's video for "My Immortal," in which lead singer Amy Lee is lying on top of a car. Vorn is right, she does have flowers or leaves or something in her hair. The text is "Suppressed by all my childish fears," a line from the song. Love the song, love the band, and I've been too lazy to change my avatars within the past several months.

_________________
Image


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:48 pm 
Offline
Concession Worker
Concession Worker

Joined: Fri Feb 07, 2003 7:34 pm
Posts: 1347
Location: Boston
Ah, okay. I've vaguely heard of the group and probably have heard something
from them at some point.

Ah, listened to a bit of the tune at their web site. Not exactly an ecstatically
happy song, is it? :)

_________________
V. S. Greene : klyfix@aol.com : Boston, near Arkham...
Klyfix''s Journal Thingy
A rodent with mad skillz, uh, no.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Nov 02, 2004 11:58 pm 
LKM, you are officially my hero. Which is a kind of random comment, but I'm a writer by trade normally, and well, I had an artist, but artist wasn't reliable, so I gave up and decided to draw it on myself. It's nice to hear that other people are doing it and have had great sucess, and are doing as well as you are. Gives people like me hope :D

Keep up the good work. :D Thnx for inspiring people like me.


(*sits in corner now* waiting for more pages)

Looks back and post and notes slight sucking up comments...hmmm...well, it was just nice to know that I'm not the only one :D


Top
  
 
 Post subject: interesting
PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:18 am 
Have a look at the link in my sig
__________________________________________
Unlock phones music soccer tv Cheap mp3s get back on ebay even after suspension
Money reading emails
Male entertainers
Improve your golf score in 2 weeks
Stop smoking within a week
Amazing paypal loophole a must for buyers and sellers
Get £5 for absolutely free
Get £4 for joining ebay and bidding absolutely free


Top
  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 72 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group