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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 1:56 pm 
Terrorism suspects buy guns. People froth up into a panicky fury

I guess the response to this would be "What is the definition of a terrorism suspect?" Would this be a person who fits a certain profile or may have had some incidental contact, or is this someone who has taken part in a terrorist act? If the first, then there is no legal way to stop them. They haven't committed any crimes whatsoever. If you were to stop everyone from buying a gun whom you thought might at some point in the future commit a felony... You might as well conjure up a "Precrimes unit." It'd be a huge errosion of civil liberties.

I think the best thing to do in this case is to tie into the background checks computers and put little hooks in that notify the FBI everytime someone does a gun background check on one of their terrorism suspects, then immediately promote them higher in the watch list. Maybe assign an agent to follow them around.

It's been shown that it's extremely easy to get onto the terrorism suspect list. People have gotten on there just because their name is similar to another person's name, or because they wrote an angry letter to their congressman. We should only use actual convictions to determine eligibility, not some subjective notion that could be easily abused like "this person acts like he might do something bad."


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:05 pm 
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Kazriko wrote:
You might as well conjure up a "Precrimes unit." It'd be a huge errosion of civil liberties.


ANDERTON: *rolls the Red Ball across the counter, where it's caught by WITWER as it goes off the edge*
ANDERTON: Why'd you catch that?
WITWER: Because it was going to fall.
ANDERTON: You're sure?
WITWER: Yeah, I'm sure.
ANDERTON: But it didn't fall. You caught it.

Looks like in most cases, what you describe is what happened. Check out the number of cases that the sale was allowed, because of the fact that there WERE NO prior acts that are valid reasons to block the sale.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 12:56 pm 
Nod, they are doing what I said up to and perhaps including watching those who buy them. It's just that people are now pushing for that to change and for subjective judgements to take the place of actual convictions. Not a good idea in the long run.


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