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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 1:48 pm 
/more needless pedantery

Jet's do not use AvGas, they use jet fuel. Jet fuel (often refered to as Jet A) is similar to kerosene and much less volatile than AvGas. Piston engined aircraft use AvGas


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The Soviets also made a few examples of one of the Kalashnikov AK rifles with a downward curved barrel. It was intended to be used by tank crews for shooing away enemy infantry trying to get close enough to poke landmines or grenades into the tracks. Then I guess someone remembered their tanks already had machine guns and they could just shoot at each other to take care of the pesty grunts.

On the Allied side, calling up another tank to paste you with some .50 BMG was often called "scratch my back" as in "Hey Joe, scratch my back woudja? Got me a case of Jerries to get shed of."


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As for this new and fancy pistol buttstock (illegal for American civvies per the 1934 GCA), a mirror on a stick would work as well. ;)

If they want a gun that really shoots around corners, design an active bullet that can alter its trajectory. Or invent that kickass gun from "The Fifth Element". Love the Replay function!


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:48 am 
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(illegal for American civvies per the 1934 GCA


Nitpick: The 1934 GCA didn't make them, or full-auto weapons, illegal. It did heavily regulate them, but any citizen can still own one, if you're willing to deal with some paperwork, a rather extensive background check, and pay a $200 transfer tax. You can apply for and obtain a Class III dealer's license that allows you to deal in what are known as Class III weapons.

A friend of mine who's into submachine guns has had two; a MAC-10 9mm and later, a gorgeous, original 1928A Thompson missing, unfortunately, the wonderful 100-round drum. He used 30-round stick magazines, and it was a blast - literally - to shoot.


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But the 1968 Amendments to the 1934 NFA certainly did make machine guns and suppressors illegal. If it wasn't registered before the 1968 Amendments passed, then it could *NEVER* be registered and is *permanently* a piece of contraband.

Unique law in that it not only created a whole new class of criminals out of thin air, but those people who WERE now criminals and wanted to comply with the law had one option and one option only. To surrender their personal property to the government for no compensation whatsoever.

Real nice.

Also, the 1986 act made it illegal for any new machine guns to be manufactured except for government use. (The rules don't apply to the government, you see.)

If you want to know more about the way this works, check out Prohibition's Ugly Legacy in the Donkeys & Elephants forum here on the Zoo.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 5:33 pm 
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But the 1968 Amendments to the 1934 NFA certainly did make machine guns and suppressors illegal. If it wasn't registered before the 1968 Amendments passed, then it could *NEVER* be registered and is *permanently* a piece of contraband.


Well, this is waaaay beyond nitpicking, but neither the GCA nor the 86 law made them illegal, they only limited the pool of transferable guns.

A collector or Class III dealer today won't have too much trouble finding, say, a 1928A1 Thompson, but they're pricey.

IMO, they're stupid laws in any case; the easiest gun in the world to make in a basement workshop is a MAC-type machine pistol, and a decently talented ten-year-old could build a working supressor.


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