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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2002 10:08 pm 
Code:
__^v_l_,wsx__,ljdtk__t_srfw_t,ks_l_q[kc_i
h_aukid__|mmdne__j__Gkkkq{;__|Vxd_.wt_lqe
k_y_eT_s[fw_xp_s{.wdg_mvbd_.utylmek____S_
y__]ihsdflog;Odo_eGt_tp|s_._d__yVad_._tgl
[e[_f_pJmd_q_;g_Mmwt\_jn_ols_k_jkdeove{_d
_[T\sff_ov__nvo_sqk]j[d]o`!w{g_w_h<bsh,ye
y_l_k:{sd_wj^se,__ohug\hx_nt[shfp_zyxdmdo
p__n,Yj_dll[_[tds\fP_ryysYfll_ho_ssufqkt{
____]<cjuabkq_bamoUd[_ot^s[fr_ykXacp[v_gH
l_ur__a_naslf[kc!r{w!i_i_yGRqX.gdv__a[p{,
faot[;g_rv_ly,tsml_ey_|_x<gdf_zujocdw,___
f_rw_tg_l`_xkuj_d__Y;wa_mCdv_yjvsrfj;_dO!
d____SvjkeWe[et_k_j<ujtaAkh_nvrgelihz_cs]
yF__ag_tpha_m_dQ__;`iegf'ky_gV_`;_kcsqowt
___gh;l_pk_j[gg;qw__ua\letn,qantk{v_[_vHc
sLl]qFk___ag;mv__tmed_eP___eA_;evl__ktjKd
[_wlia_o^o_aukas_oxeh___xGK__v_ll,isle__t
__P[dFkiq_;__njoaj._dt_wmws\omd__t;uj_svs
[kwgqltu_eP_x_uAcka_xt_sjfb_hkg,es{e_

Same rules as Kazriko's ciphers. Which comic is this?


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2002 6:25 am 
certainly enough charicters to be one to one...
{'\n': 20, '\x0c': 1, '!': 4, ' ': 18, "'": 1, ',': 12, '.': 7, ';': 14, ':': 1, '<': 4, 'A': 3, 'C': 1, 'G': 4, 'F': 3, 'H': 2, 'K': 2, 'J': 1, 'M': 1, 'L': 1, 'O': 2, 'Q': 1, 'P': 4, 'S': 2, 'R': 1, 'U': 1, 'T': 2, 'W': 1, 'V': 3, 'Y': 3, 'X': 2, '[': 21, ']': 6, '\\': 5, '_': 180, '^': 4, 'a': 21, '`': 4, 'c': 9, 'b': 5, 'e': 26, 'd': 33, 'g': 21, 'f': 17, 'i': 10, 'h': 14, 'k': 32, 'j': 21, 'm': 15, 'l': 28, 'o': 20, 'n': 10, 'q': 14, 'p': 9, 's': 32, 'r': 9, 'u': 14, 't': 29, 'w': 19, 'v': 18, 'y': 16, 'x': 11, '{': 10, 'z': 3, '|': 4}

180 _'s.
you can probably safely disregard the \n's and ' 's..


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2002 8:46 am 
toss in a handy english frequency chart, because we don't have a schlock mercenary frequency chart handy...
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  E 12.31%     L 4.03%    B 1.62%
  T  9.59      D 3.65     G 1.61
  A  8.05      C 3.20     V 0.93
  O  7.94      U 3.10     K 0.52
  N  7.19      P 2.29     Q 0.20
  I  7.18      F 2.28     X 0.20
  S  6.59      M 2.25     J 0.10
  R  6.03      W 2.03     Z 0.09
  H  5.14      Y 1.88     


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2002 8:58 am 
[('_', 180), ('d', 33), ('k', 32), ('s', 32), ('t', 29), ('l', 28 ), ('e', 26), ('[', 21), ('a', 21), ('g', 21), ('j', 21), ('\n', 20), ('o', 20), (' ', 19), ('w', 19), ('v', 18 ), ('f', 17), ('y', 16), ('m', 15), (';', 14), ('h', 14), ('q', 14), ('u', 14), (',', 12), ('x', 11), ('i', 10), ('n', 10), ('{', 10), ('c', 9), ('p', 9), ('r', 9), ('.', 7), (']', 6), ('\\', 5), ('b', 5), ('!', 4), ('<', 4), ('G', 4), ('P', 4), ('^', 4), ('`', 4), ('|', 4), ('A', 3), ('F', 3), ('V', 3), ('Y', 3), ('z', 3), ('H', 2), ('K', 2), ('O', 2), ('S', 2), ('T', 2), ('X', 2), ('\x0c', 1), ("'", 1), (':', 1), ('C', 1), ('J', 1), ('M', 1), ('L', 1), ('Q', 1), ('R', 1), ('U', 1), ('W', 1)]
i notice that the capital letters seem to have the smallest number here.
i wonder what underscore represents. perhaps space? but why is it there more often than 2 times in a row? (both horizontally and vertically)

I'll be working on a program to do some mild substitutions... :)


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2002 9:29 am 
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Perhaps underscore is just any space or punctuation.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2002 10:37 am 
possible. I was thinking that multiple spaces might denote changing of speaker or panel. But general punctuation seems reasonable as well.

I'm too tired for doing this tonight. tommorow i'm going to work up some sort of sliding word tester deal.


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2002 11:02 am 
Awe... I still like my delightfully obscure home-brew encryption... 3d array, mostly randomized characters, one in 25 is the correct one, positionally based encryption with minor obscuring of the actual letter. =)


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2002 3:25 pm 
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What gets me is that there are exactly 2^6 = 64 distinct characters, if we count newlines and that errant ASCII 12 (what the heck is that, anyway, Kaz?). Might it be a characters-to-binary conversion, with the binary then chooped up into 6-bit segments? (I know, I'm insane. Bear with me.)

Vorn


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2002 3:36 pm 
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Ok, official word from Pi here:

1. The newlines mean nothing -- they're just there so the cipher doesn't run off the page.
2. The underscores are spaces. The fact that there are those in odd places says this:
3. Pi is EVIL, and encoded his transcription of the script with typos intact.

Vorn


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2002 5:14 am 
Vorn the Unspeakable wrote:
What gets me is that there are exactly 2^6 = 64 distinct characters, if we count newlines and that errant ASCII 12 (what the heck is that, anyway, Kaz?). Might it be a characters-to-binary conversion, with the binary then chooped up into 6-bit segments? (I know, I'm insane. Bear with me.)

Vorn

That was an errant \f in the input stream. here's one without it.
Code:
[('_', 180), ('d', 33), ('k', 32), ('s', 32),
('t', 29), ('l', 28), ('e', 26), ('[', 21), ('a', 21),
('g', 21), ('j', 21), ('\n', 20), ('o', 20), ('w', 19),
('f', 18), ('v', 18), (' ', 17), ('y', 16), ('m', 15),
(';', 14), ('h', 14), ('q', 14), ('u', 14), (',', 12),
('x', 11), ('i', 10), ('n', 10), ('{', 10), ('c', 9),
('p', 9), ('r', 9), ('.', 7), (']', 6), ('\\', 6), ('b', 5),
('!', 4), ('<', 4), ('G', 4), ('P', 4), ('^', 4), ('`', 4),
('|', 4), ('A', 3), ('F', 3), ('V', 3), ('Y', 3), ('z', 3),
('H', 2), ('K', 2), ('O', 2), ('S', 2), ('T', 2), ('X', 2),
("'", 1), (':', 1), ('C', 1), ('J', 1), ('M', 1), ('L', 1),
('Q', 1), ('R', 1), ('U', 1), ('W', 1)]


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2002 1:07 pm 
but the newlines are irrelevant...


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 10, 2002 10:50 pm 
so are the spaces.


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 25, 2002 12:49 pm 
Okay, I'm tired of waiting. This is two weeks without a post. Here's a huge hint. The cipher gets much, much easier once you thrwo out the salt. Half the data was put in by a random number generator.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2002 12:59 am 
Wow. Apparently there's no more interest in ciphers. Ah, well. I guess I'll just post the answer.

So, without further ado, here it is:
http://www.schlockmercenary.com/d/20000923.html


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 07, 2002 2:54 pm 
Well, I can make them, but I don't have the inclination to solve them. Nobody has replyed to my puzzle either.


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