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 Post subject: FRIDAY/WEEKEND EVENTS!
PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:22 am 
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Most of us being of a fair level, 45 or so, and two in their fifties (zanzo and velenius) it's probably easy now to tackle the Oztroja section of M10.

We'll try that tomorrow, I'd say about 7-8pm EST, which would give time for people to actually get here.

If some miss it, it can be likely redone later through sneak/invis anyway ;p


As for the weekend... Farming... and AF1s!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:25 am 
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Bwa ha ha.. I sneak/invised my way through, thanks to Myrri's map...
But I have a few favors to repay to the LS, so I'm there. I didn't have a lot of time to look around. :) Besides, some excellent chances for some silver/mythril beastcoins.

Though I'll be home even later than usual tomorrow so who knows..

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 6:26 am 
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*glare* bite your tongue Tcher....

Some of us got left behind at 34 and never helped again.

Also, i wouldnt expect help from Zanzo... he's been, stressed and depressed recently. I doubt he's up to helping anyone anytime soon

As for my weekend plans, is to play whm with zanzo's blm, and when not doing that, work on quests to gain fame for the Elemental Trials.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 7:09 am 
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.....

You could find your own group. Or god forbid if you can't find one, MAKE one.

Don't blame your lack of leveling on others in your "old group". Blame the idiots who don't know how to use a thf in their party....

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 9:33 am 
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I gotta say Myrri you did get your chance at the time we did let you join the PT at the time and you knew you add to level it some more and we even gave some time with our gilfarming for you to catch up and you never took it.

Some of us had to take some time and level on our own lately cause of some deaths that debalance the levels between us. But everyone that add to do so did ( ok 2 of them still needed me to help them :p

But we cant be always be behind you. And franckly I think there is way to many thief to my taste.

I've been reserching PT formations at 40+ and there is way to many complains that there not enought Tanks first of all. ( Seem it's the number one problem right now ) Way to many damage dealers ( NA seem to like POWER ) The lack of rdm and brd is also a big problem. Seem whm is not to much a problem cause there less needed ( cause of the regen and refresh spells from rdm and brd )

So the way I see it Pld, Rdm and Brd pass 40 are lacking in numbers and very search for. Whm is also still popular but seem to have been explosion of them ( just lacking on good ones that actualy know own to play ) Than there the damage dealers.... mnk, drk, drg, thf, ranger, blm.
They got there avantage and disavantage but is way to many of those out there so way to much competiton. The last job war is a bit more lucky it can do the job of a sub-Tank or sub-damage dealer so it's a versatile job but since war is a very very popular subjob from level 20 to 40 there will be alot of competition also.

The PT I running right now is like this Pld, War, Mnk, Thf, Rdm and Whm

I can replace the war, mnk, thf very very easy. if I have a rdm I can replace the whm by a blm or another rdm without to much trouble having a pld in the group. If I didnt have a pld in a the group and the war was the tank than I be in need of a whm and rdm ( or brd )

Pass 40 be prepare to find it a pain to level properly if want to level jobs that are in suranbondance.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:04 pm 
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I think what you both fail to take into account is that leveling from 30-40 for say a warrior or paladin is cake. Youll get party invites (most of the time) very shortly after you put up seek. However, as a thief, i was sitting there for two days straight trying to get a damn group. And its not like i never tried making my own, Ive received MANY compliments on my supurb group-making skills and leadership qualities. It's just that when people get to the midlevels they loose all sense of patience. (I include myself in that catagory) Almost all the whm and/or vokers i ask to invite ONLY want a full group. How the hell am i supposed to make my own groups when the lifeblood of any group doesnt WANT to start one.

And dont think this has just stemmed from recent frustration, ive felt this crap since i was level 20. I forced myself however to stick with thief. Then i found the wonders (and malities) of Static Parties. Static parties are a NECESSITY for thieves, plain and simple. I know for a fact that if you guys didnt have me in your static party from 26ish, id never have gotten to 30.

What makes me the most frustrated, was the way in which myself and a very good friend of mine was removed from said static party. Having been a "fence-sitter" on the issue, ive heard both sides of the story, and honestly, i think both parties were at fault. Rhiaan was a GREAT person, but we just pushed her aside when her services were no longer required. Thats just plain mean. Then came my removal, which was, from what i can tell, a tough thing to do, and such yielded the break up and hatred of the best people i ever met. I know what was going on, and i was (and still am) disgusted at the whole thing. Why would you go behind someones back and try to replace them in a LS spt with someone not even in the LS? You know who im talking to.

Back on topic, i've never ONCE heard any of you ask me if i wanted to party since the break up of the spt. You all have alts at 30, youd have to (well, except for perhaps Tcher) because you all had to get a class to 30 to get Pld, or Brd and whatnot. What is keeping you from leveling those and helping out the linkshell without your own selfish intensions in mind?

We're a linkshell, we should take care of each other and help everyone when they need it.

This is just the TIP of what i have to say.....


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:41 pm 
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On Miaka's issue:

Well, there's a good reason there's a shortage of those 3 jobs.
1: Paladins. Paladins are a definate must-have, but for the mindset of most NA players, they're boring. I mean, most people don't find sitting there and having the sole job of trying to maintain hate fun. I wouldn't, not for very long anyway. Plus their damage is pitiful.

2: Red Mages: Most people don't want to be these for a good reason: Nobody wants them. Not many know their true potential (and I must say, the only time I've liked RDMs was when there were two of them). They will either be back-up healers or small debuffers.

3: Bards. It takes a very 'special' person to be a bard. Bards are useful, yes, but I don't consider them to be anywhere near vital. I'll accept a bard in a party if we have a competent PAL, WHM, BLM, DRK, etc. Bards spend the entire battle picking 3 songs and keeping them going. I know *I* wouldn't enjoy that for long, but who knows.
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Myrri's Issue:

Dear God I would love a Static Party.
I'm level 36.. The parties I get are few and far-between, and most suck anyway. A lot of people don't consider thieves vital, but my party was QUITE pleased when a dragoon and I managed to take over half of a Worker Crawler's health in one (2?) hits at the beginning of battles.

Raiden (70+ DMG) + Sneak>Trick>Viper (350ish DMG) + Distortion SC (120ish DMG) is rather deadly. =)

Anywho, bell rung, gotta go. See ya'll at Oztroja.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 3:07 pm 
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1st issue: if you do an Oztroja run, can I join? o.o;

2nd issue: I'm keeping my WHM in mind, but I'm really considering RDM or RNG as my #1 job(s). Both are currently 16.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 3:25 pm 
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Ive pretty much given up on Thf. Ninja, ill still play, but Thf is pretty much moot right now at least until i get into a spt of some kind where i can sub ninja and thf, and they wouldnt care much.

In the meantime, im very much enjoying the life of a Whm/Smn and Smn/Whm. And honestly, if any of you who arnt already in a spt would like to level up a subjob or just a different job in general, Zanzo and I are playing Blm and Whm repectively, both at level 10. So if you want to join us, we'd love to have ya. Especially a voker :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 4:09 pm 
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I'm currently leveling a war, since it good to sub for just about every subjob(level 6 currently) and I wouldn't mind leveling with you and Zanzo. But I'm not getting into the argument going on since I've got nothing to do with it.

On a side note, I was told to mention that several LS members are still not even rank 4 yet, and need to do Mission 9, I know both I and Kaz need this. It was suggested this be done while several of our other LS members do their AF Weapons quests.

Speaking of gaining ranks, if anyone still needs to do mission 6 where you fight the Dragon, let me know, I'll come help out if I can get there.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 4:29 pm 
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I'm ALWAYS on the lookout for parties to level my subjobs. Currently, my jobs are: WAR18, WHM17, SMN15, DRK12, DRG9

I'd rather level SMN to ~20 first, seeing how I need it for my RDM >_> but I'll settle with any of the others ^^;

And Pathos, poor guy, looks something like this: WHM12, BLM20 (only jobs higher than lvl 1)


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 11:39 pm 
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Yeah, i'm trying to get M9 going here, i ran into a group that was going to do it this weekend, but the only contact i have in that group is offline. :(

As far as leveling subjobs, I'm currently lvl 12 thief, lvl 15 blm, lvl 20 war, and lvl 25 red mage.. if anyone is building a leveling party around those levels, i'll be glad to help out if i'm not already in a good party.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 11:56 pm 
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About M9.

Several of you will remember Bjargmundur, a WHM hume now turned Beastmaster who formed his own bst LS.

He's still around and has helped occasionally on some things.

His first AF happens to be within Delkfutt tower as well, which if you ask me, we could do at the same time as helping those who need m9.


And we'd probably have his help on stuff for other AF1s :)

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2004 7:17 pm 
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Sounds good, I'll have to talk to Bjarg about that linkshell, might be interesting to have a job specific one when I'm playing BST. I actually was in a party with someone who was in a BST specific linkshell.

Just set a time when we can do the M9, I'm here between 9PM-midnight MST on weekdays, and random times on weekends. :)


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