The Nightstar Zoo

What is Self-awareness?

No circular definitions allowed.

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Master of Evil

Subject is aware that it's an individual and has the ability to differentiate between itself and others. Part of that would probably include a good understanding of its own properties/capabilities and its (soft/wet)ware.

More importantly, ability to make decisions based on these understandings would be a good indicator.

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In other words, aware of self, or lemme see, uhm, self-aware?

/me watchs Raif chase his tail.

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A religion is sometimes a source of happiness and I would not deprive anyone of happiness. But it is a comfort appropriate for the weak.
The great trouble with a religion, any religion, is that a religionist, having accepted certain propositions by faith, cannot thereafter judge those propositions by evidence. One may bask at the warm fires of faith or choose to live in the bleak uncertainty of reason, but one cannot have both.

Robert A Heinlein (As Hartley M Baldwin, in Friday)

Ah, semantic masturbation, the cornerstone of philosophy.

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Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, grab es tief unten im Keller ein.
Später dann graben es andere aus, und nennen dein Haus das Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, leg auch ihre weißen Schädel hinein.
Mit Beton gießt du es aus, das Fundament vom Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, da ist noch Platz, da paßt noch wer rein.
Hier tobte sich der Teufel aus, unten im Keller im Knochenhaus.

hehehehehehe

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A religion is sometimes a source of happiness and I would not deprive anyone of happiness. But it is a comfort appropriate for the weak.
The great trouble with a religion, any religion, is that a religionist, having accepted certain propositions by faith, cannot thereafter judge those propositions by evidence. One may bask at the warm fires of faith or choose to live in the bleak uncertainty of reason, but one cannot have both.

Robert A Heinlein (As Hartley M Baldwin, in Friday)

Most of life is one kind of masturbation or another.

Pronto: I also defined what I meant by individual, so nyah. Try again.

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Ability to laugh

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Wail and Agony
Pandemonium

Minion of Evil
I humbly request stickyness-Me
I have decided that you are awesome after all. XD-Crazie Sunshine

You can make a machine whose only purpose is to laugh at random intervals. Doesn't work.

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I have never heard a machine laugh with a good joke, must be me. Or those random intervals.

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Wail and Agony
Pandemonium

Minion of Evil
I humbly request stickyness-Me
I have decided that you are awesome after all. XD-Crazie Sunshine

Doesn't mean that one can't be made. For that matter, you having never heard one doesn't mean it can't already exist.

And good jokes are subjective. I've found that old saw, "You can tell a man's character by what he laughs at," to be very true. What's funny depends on who's observing.

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Or who's being observed.

*points and laughs at Raif*

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Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, grab es tief unten im Keller ein.
Später dann graben es andere aus, und nennen dein Haus das Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, leg auch ihre weißen Schädel hinein.
Mit Beton gießt du es aus, das Fundament vom Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, da ist noch Platz, da paßt noch wer rein.
Hier tobte sich der Teufel aus, unten im Keller im Knochenhaus.

I thought we discussed that you wouldn't put cameras in my apartment anymore.

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Technically, he didn't.

(Which reminds me, jeremiah, you owe me fifty bucks.)

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The Animal

$40. The video quality was terrible.

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Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, grab es tief unten im Keller ein.
Später dann graben es andere aus, und nennen dein Haus das Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, leg auch ihre weißen Schädel hinein.
Mit Beton gießt du es aus, das Fundament vom Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, da ist noch Platz, da paßt noch wer rein.
Hier tobte sich der Teufel aus, unten im Keller im Knochenhaus.

Hey, you supplied the cameras.

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My LiveJournal.
From Bear Creek
Making people wonder what the hell is wrong with me since 1961
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
The Animal

New policy: Nobody places cameras in my apartment. And you should be charging Jer at least double, since I've hired a guard fish who's pretty mean with an MP5.

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I brought a can of Bat-Shark-Repellent.

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My LiveJournal.
From Bear Creek
Making people wonder what the hell is wrong with me since 1961
"Quando Omni Flunkus Moritati"
The Animal

Ah, but you haven't met my friend the.. uh... space amoeba! *shifty eye*

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I fail to see how you can avoid a circular definition of a phrase like 'self aware'.

Heh, see the dictionary definition:


What about the concept is unclear, Gerald? If you're trying to find a line at which one can seperate what is/isn't self-aware, I don't think you will. This, like many philisophical notions, seems a "Know It When You See It" thing.

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Sort of like pornography.

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"I remember the first time I got laid. There was nothing but darkness at
first. Then movement, coming in fits and starts. Then I felt a weird
urge, and used my sharp beak to break free of that damnable prison."
—— Karim Rashad, in rec.martial-arts

I'm more of wondering if the thing actually exists, and it might just be a term that we say exists cause it makes warm and fuzzy feelings.

Similiar to free-will and souls.

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Master of Evil

Self awareness: the ability to have warm and fuzzy feelings.

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CALL ME MINH DAMMIT.

The folly of mistaking a paradox for a discovery, a metaphor for a proof, a torrent of verbiage for a spring of capital truths, and oneself for an oracle, is inborn in us.
Paul Valery (1871 - 1945), 1895

Are definitions the place to look? We can clearly define both of those, and their existence is debatable.

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