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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 10:40 pm 
Just saying. Here, read this:

http://www.csmonitor.com/2004/1123/p11s02-legn.html

I know it's kind of old news, but it still bugs me. If they start having to teach "intelligent design" in public school they may as well start teaching that "the little green footballs from planet Viagra created the human race". That's a logical interpretation. :x


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Ugh. Creationists. If there's anything that really makes me seriously pissed, it's creationists. Such willful disregard for science, logic, and reason.

And to think I used to be one... *sighs*

No, you don't get to hear about that.

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Mit Beton gießt du es aus, das Fundament vom Knochenhaus.
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Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, grab es tief unten im Keller ein.
Später dann graben es andere aus, und nennen dein Haus das Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, leg auch ihre weißen Schädel hinein.
Mit Beton gießt du es aus, das Fundament vom Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, da ist noch Platz, da paßt noch wer rein.
Hier tobte sich der Teufel aus, unten im Keller im Knochenhaus.


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It's only obvious to those already immersed in the symbology of the particular cult. Lets hear your rationale. I've never understood it.


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lol


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*rolls her eyes*

Jesus was the only one that came back in the Xian religion (aside from Lazarus, who was brought back by Jesus). Thus considering him unique is perfectly reasonable in context of Xian belief.

Here I was thinking that the question was about the significance/ prominence of the cross as opposed to the fish, but y'all just seem to want to harp on why 'religion suxx0rs'.

The symbology of Xianity has changed over the years, because Xianity has changed over the years. Modern day Xians would no more use the symbology of the Xians of two thousand years ago than you woud speak the language of *insert home country here* from two thousand years ago.

If what you want to do is slam your pet peeve, don't disguise it in a request for knowledge. That happens to be one of my pet peeves. :roll:


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Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, grab es tief unten im Keller ein.
Später dann graben es andere aus, und nennen dein Haus das Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, leg auch ihre weißen Schädel hinein.
Mit Beton gießt du es aus, das Fundament vom Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, da ist noch Platz, da paßt noch wer rein.
Hier tobte sich der Teufel aus, unten im Keller im Knochenhaus.


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Actually Christ was the first to come back from the dead in an immortal state. Everyone that was brought back to life previously died again later. Christ's ressurection to immortality allows everyone else to be ressurected to immortality at some point.

The cross if often used as a symbol becuase the last part of Christ's Atonement for us took place there. In both the Garden of Gethsemane and on the cross Jesus suffered for the sins of the world and then on the cross gave up His life to complete that payment. Three days later He arose from the tomb, ressurected and immortal. In this He over came physical death(separation of spirit and body), and spiritual death(separation of person and God).

I personally don't agree with using the cross as an identification symbol for two reasons. One, it concentrates on one part of His gospel and Atonement, which can obscure or overpower other aspects. Two, the part it concentrates on is not the final victory, but the lowest point. A very important part of the process, but not the one I'd choose to focus on.

But the fact that a cross it a lot easier to draw and other make than most other possibilities may have something to do with its endurance.


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Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, grab es tief unten im Keller ein.
Später dann graben es andere aus, und nennen dein Haus das Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, leg auch ihre weißen Schädel hinein.
Mit Beton gießt du es aus, das Fundament vom Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, da ist noch Platz, da paßt noch wer rein.
Hier tobte sich der Teufel aus, unten im Keller im Knochenhaus.


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It perhaps ought to be added that in many if not most 'pagan' religions, there is a ressurrection story of some kind; the mystery cults of Osiris, Dionysius and Mithras all had resurrection (and subesquent immortality for the faithful) as part of there doctrines, and even early many sects used the death and ressurrection of the 'Corn King' (and often, the literal death and replacement of an actual youth who was chosen as the 'king') as an allegory for the seasonal cycles. While it was an important part of Christian theology, it was not the part of Christianity that was the key to it's spread throughout the Roman Empire.

Actually, the mostly likely reasons for it's prominence were a) it offered an explanation for why the old religions seemed to many to be failing (with social decay and so on), b) it accepted members of all backgrounds and classes, both men and women, so long as they accepted it as their sole faith, d) it's exclusivity gave a strict 'us versus them' aspect that served as a bond betwen the fellowship, as did the 'underground' nature of the religion in the early days, and e) it focused almost entirely on faith and 'morality', with few devotional rites compared to the ritual-heavy traditional religions. Some of the mystery and devotional sects shared some of these traits, but none AFIAK shared all of them; exclusive religions in particular were rare, and devotees of most sects have no problem also follow the cults of Roma and the emperors as well as their own faiths, even when they contradicted each other.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 2:48 pm 
Eh. What I don't understand is why hard-core evolution teachers are dead-set against any sort of guidance to evolution at all and use evolution as a "Because there is evolution there is no god" deal.

We really don't know. We will probably never know for sure if there was any guidance in evolution. It's easy to ignore the possibility with Occams razor though. Just because it is a less likely possibility doesn't mean that it is impossible though.

So my opinion comes down to "Evolution is just fine to teach in schools, as long as they don't arrogantly dismiss questions with 'There is no god, stupid' and instead say 'It's possible but scientifically unlikely.'"


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