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Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, grab es tief unten im Keller ein.
Später dann graben es andere aus, und nennen dein Haus das Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, leg auch ihre weißen Schädel hinein.
Mit Beton gießt du es aus, das Fundament vom Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, da ist noch Platz, da paßt noch wer rein.
Hier tobte sich der Teufel aus, unten im Keller im Knochenhaus.


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Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, grab es tief unten im Keller ein.
Später dann graben es andere aus, und nennen dein Haus das Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, leg auch ihre weißen Schädel hinein.
Mit Beton gießt du es aus, das Fundament vom Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, da ist noch Platz, da paßt noch wer rein.
Hier tobte sich der Teufel aus, unten im Keller im Knochenhaus.


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pulls out a fire opal and begins collecting up the spilled mana left over from all the thread necromancy

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I think many of the above posts are missing a few obvious points about the tsunami, assuming the one we're talking about is the one in 2004:

First of all, it was made very clear that suffering entered the world through ADAM, not through God.

Why then, would God allow Adam to doom all humanity to live in a self-destructive universe?

Answer: Volition dilemma.

1. To be an all-powerful being of love, there must be objects of affection, so God painted himself into a corner with the sense of a need to create the universe.

2. For there to be objects of affection, there must be beings capable of affection.

3. To have such said being be capable of affection, they must be able to truly mean it.

4. For the being to be able to truly mean it when they love, they must be presented with a choice.

5. To make a choice, they have to be able to choose.

6. To be able to choose, they must be given the option to make alternative choices.

7. Due to the laws of causation, all such choices must have consequences.

8. Due to the mechanics of original sin, since Adam and Eve had no children prior to their fall, the logical fallout curse on Physicalia applied to them, all the animals, and all human flesh as well.

9. The nature of salvation for the soul and creation of a new and perfect body being a whole other topic, this leaves us with the temporal life and the depraved state, where we are free game to the consequences of evil, both in the human heart and in the forces of nature.

10. Therefore, God can decide based on his "greater plan" schematics when to spare us from disaster and when to allow it to hit us with as much wrath as it feels we deserve.

Now, for something a little more down to Earth:

The tsunami of 04 attacked and caused a lot of devastation. However, in that part of the world, there were islands that were predominantly Muslim and islands that were predominantly Christian.

The predominantly Christian ones suffered lots of financial losses, but very little loss of life. The Muslim islands that were realtively religiously tolerant were spared from excessive loss of life.

However, the islands that were huge recruitment centers for al-Queda and many other Jihadist organizations suffered the heaviest loss of life.


Therefore, I honestly believe that the tsunami was not there because God was reckless, powerless, irrelevant, or incompetent; but because He was trying to send a very pointed message to the Jihadists of the world:

"Cut it out. What you do is not my will. Stop killing everyone who's not you. And if you continue, do not keep pretending to do so in my name. Try my patience like this, and all your loved ones are free game for my hand. Your international enemies will do nothing; for I will destroy you myself if you keep pressing your luck."


To this day, I don't think most Jihadists have understood the message. Apparently, most Westerners don't understand it either.

Mercy and Justice must exist in an eternal balance. But on the divine scale, the clay cannot presume to always understand the potter perfectly.

I hope I have not confused anyone too greatly.


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Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, grab es tief unten im Keller ein.
Später dann graben es andere aus, und nennen dein Haus das Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, leg auch ihre weißen Schädel hinein.
Mit Beton gießt du es aus, das Fundament vom Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, da ist noch Platz, da paßt noch wer rein.
Hier tobte sich der Teufel aus, unten im Keller im Knochenhaus.


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