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PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2004 12:51 am 
An interesting point was brought up a few days ago in my Political Science class in a discussion involving the death penalty. A person in favor of the death penalty believed that any person who committed a murder of any sort (barring that of self defense, which is not technically a murder anyway) was to be considered mentally insane. I know that people who have intricately planned out murders far in advance so as not to be captured are for the most part VERY intelligent, but does this sort of morbid intelligence cause them to be mentally insane?


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I'm not actually clear on what insanity is, really.


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There are two things a sane person (unless sheltered beyond belief) knows about a murder.

1: It destroys another human life.
2: It's very illegal and carries strict penalties.

Now, if #1, in a general sense, is the primary cause of the murder, that person ought also to be legally insane. However, if #1, in a specific sense (ie: assassination), is the primary cause of the murder, that person is not insane, with one exception. If the person did not know it was a crime, not through sheer ignorance, but through utter delusion, the person is clearly not sane. The same goes for if the cause of the murder was independent of #1 (eg: to scare someone, to prove a point).


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So if I want you dead because you annoy me, then that automatically makes me insane?

Is that like defining poverty to be "below the nth percentile of people regardless of actual income vs. living wage," or defining a living wage to be "more than you have because you can't afford rent after paying food for your eighteen kids?"

Dunno, L5N. If it came down to calling you insane or me, my money wouldn't have been on the latter.


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Thats great, kreely, and if you were perfect in your ability to read a persons guilt, I'd load the pistol for you.

Unfortunately, I'm better at determining guilty or innocence than you are and I'm not good enough.

I search my soul every time I give testimony that may result in someone going to jail. I couldn't do this job if I had to risk contributing to the unjust killing of an innocent person.

One innocent person executed by your state and you are a murder. I think warehousing 99 evil motherfsckers isn't too much to do to prevent the murder of one innocent person.


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