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Personnally, I think it's a real tragedy that some elements of society have come to regard faith as a good thing.
However, it should be noted that not all religious folks rely on faith...Some base their beliefs on logical reasoning (a reasoning which I believe to be incorrect, but at least it is a reasoning).


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Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, grab es tief unten im Keller ein.
Später dann graben es andere aus, und nennen dein Haus das Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, leg auch ihre weißen Schädel hinein.
Mit Beton gießt du es aus, das Fundament vom Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, da ist noch Platz, da paßt noch wer rein.
Hier tobte sich der Teufel aus, unten im Keller im Knochenhaus.


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Warning this is a little long, though hopefully clear.

I think there must be a distintion made between blind faith, and a well questioned faith. Blind faith is never questioned. Too many people are willing to take one side of the story and then stick their fingers in their ears and go "lalalalalala" when any thing that makes one rethink the first side. I think this is what ticks people of most about fanatics, the "My way is the only right way, so everyone must follow it to the letter.' :roll: This is when fights small or major start to occur.

True faith is being able to believe one thing is true dispite doubt and lack of proof one way or another. Whether or not any god exists has a great lack of material or logical proof, yet many believe strongly one way or another on the issue. Personally, I have strong faith that there is a God and Goddess who look over me and have had personal encounters with them. Nothing logical or material enough to be shared, but enough to know my faith works for me. I've also talked to others who have had similar experiences but with different deities. We could all be utterly wrong and barking up the wrong tree of faith, but there is also no solid proof of that either.

Not all choices should be made on faith but many have to be. I have faith that the bank will let me spend the money in my account. I have faith that my husband loves me and there are no major problems in my marriage that aren't being faced. These things have some logic to them but have no proof (well, except for the bank but that is only when a transaction actually goes through).

Political choices made based on a specific theology or dogma now those many are having problems with. In Ohio, they are trying to pass an admendment baning gay marriages and state benifits to all unmarried couples. My understanding of this is a fundamentalist christian group is pushing their blind faith that being homosexual is evil and wrong and marriage should only be between a man and a woman and only legally married couples deserve benifits of any kind.


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Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, grab es tief unten im Keller ein.
Später dann graben es andere aus, und nennen dein Haus das Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, leg auch ihre weißen Schädel hinein.
Mit Beton gießt du es aus, das Fundament vom Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, da ist noch Platz, da paßt noch wer rein.
Hier tobte sich der Teufel aus, unten im Keller im Knochenhaus.


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Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, grab es tief unten im Keller ein.
Später dann graben es andere aus, und nennen dein Haus das Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, leg auch ihre weißen Schädel hinein.
Mit Beton gießt du es aus, das Fundament vom Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, da ist noch Platz, da paßt noch wer rein.
Hier tobte sich der Teufel aus, unten im Keller im Knochenhaus.


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Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, grab es tief unten im Keller ein.
Später dann graben es andere aus, und nennen dein Haus das Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, leg auch ihre weißen Schädel hinein.
Mit Beton gießt du es aus, das Fundament vom Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, da ist noch Platz, da paßt noch wer rein.
Hier tobte sich der Teufel aus, unten im Keller im Knochenhaus.


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Honestly? I think it's more along the lines of the ties that I have with my family. No matter how much shit we went though, they're still mine. This could be my unconcious mind picking up on "feelings" or it could be Diety telling me to wake my arse up and check on them. I cannot offer empirical proof to back me up. I can, however, offer statements from friends and family about these episodes.

It's like being able to guess the next song about to play on the radio. It just happens.


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Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, grab es tief unten im Keller ein.
Später dann graben es andere aus, und nennen dein Haus das Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, leg auch ihre weißen Schädel hinein.
Mit Beton gießt du es aus, das Fundament vom Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, da ist noch Platz, da paßt noch wer rein.
Hier tobte sich der Teufel aus, unten im Keller im Knochenhaus.


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Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, grab es tief unten im Keller ein.
Später dann graben es andere aus, und nennen dein Haus das Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, leg auch ihre weißen Schädel hinein.
Mit Beton gießt du es aus, das Fundament vom Knochenhaus.
Scharr, scharr, verscharr das Gebein, da ist noch Platz, da paßt noch wer rein.
Hier tobte sich der Teufel aus, unten im Keller im Knochenhaus.


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